Should prostitution be legalized?

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:24 am

I'm all for the lagalization of prostitution. But the following article of how that affected socail services in Germany gave me pause.

And then I thought.... Germany has it right. If women don't want the job, then they don't need the benefits.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... germ30.xml

Post by **Ddrak** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:41 am

It applies to men as well, but I can follow the reasoning there. If you agree that prostitution (or any job) is legal then people who refuse the job should be denied unemployment benefits.

Dd

Aabe · Post by **Aabe** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:16 am

Hmm so the sex industry is cramming it down the throats of unemployed women, so to speak??

Akhbarali · Post by **Akhbarali** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:29 am

[quote="Ddrak"If you agree that prostitution (or any job) is legal then people who refuse the job should be denied unemployment benefits. Dd[/quote]

I don't think that is entirely accurate here in the States. There are lots of unemployed people and lots of low end service jobs open at any given time. If this statement was accurate they could force everyone on unemployment to be dishawashers, maids or retail clerks. We've had several former employees go the full term of unemployment even though there are signs in windows all over this town looking for low end service workers. I employ personel people to deal with this crap so I am just commenting on what I have seen with no real knowledge of the laws involved.

Regarding prosititution, it should be legal.

Akhbar

ZanypherCocoapuffs · Post by **ZanypherCocoapuffs** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:46 pm

Legal and regulated like hell. Full health coverage, security, psychological counseling if necessary, and before any guy or girl can go in there to do their thing to the ladies / men of the night, they need to pass a physical too. No sense in spreading around diseases. If you got herpes, get out.

Some people go into prostitution because they have no other choice, but the prostitute has been a part of human society since before Jesus.

Aabe · Post by **Aabe** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:55 pm

Heh heh heh, so we will regulate it out of business before we even legalize it. That's beurocracy in it's prime. =D
Lets make it the best 2 out of 3 psyc exams to get in, oh and the examiners all have to be govmt employees, and of course we need a standards govmt guy to insure all the psyc guys are following the standandards, then we need a lawyer for the mistakes along the way. Of course some exit counseling would be nice, to ensure the experience wasn't harmful to the client or the employee. Gee, we could run the unemployment rolls empty with a little more creative thought here!!!

Partha · Post by **Partha** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:53 pm

If all you want is a cheap hooker, use the current system. No charge for any diseases you get.

Aabe · Post by **Aabe** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:08 pm

Partha wrote:If all you want is a cheap hooker, use the current system. No charge for any diseases you get.

Cheap hooker??? NOOOoooOo nononononono.. not once the governement steps in and regulates.. Why being an unlicenced hooker and treding on government regulatory money incomes will land them in trouble waaaaayyy faster than just being an "illeagle" cheap hooker in a government unregulated system.

But it does make one stop and think. Is Germany a conservative or liberal government, I know they have the green party but unsure as what predominates there these days.

I like it though, of course I like sick humor, a country that throws you out in the street if you refuse to sell your body for money. Guess it depends on who is making up the morals or maybe there is no place for morals in government.

Laylee · Post by **Laylee** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:11 pm

Ddrak wrote:It applies to men as well, but I can follow the reasoning there. If you agree that prostitution (or any job) is legal then people who refuse the job should be denied unemployment benefits.

Dd

Actually... having been laid off last year, I can say that you can turn down any job that's less than 75% of what you were making at your previous job.... maybe prostitution is lucrative.

Laylee

Narith · Post by **Narith** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:20 pm

Well you can give a woman or a man money freely, you can have sex with a willing partner freely, do the two together and you get arested.

Pros:
1. Less arrests for more prison room for true violent offender.
2. Better over all health for the citizens, slowing the spread of STDs in the population and the like.
3. More tax income into the state/nation, how much money goes to prostitution as is? Imagine being able to tax that and the increase when it is legal.
4. It is legalized in a county in Nevada and in Netherlands, so there is a history to be studdied to show effects of legalization.
5. Creating a new legalized indutry provides more jobs.
6. It will lead to better sex education amongst the population.

Cons:
1. It will lower the value of women in the minds of many men seeing them as nothing more than a sex toy instead of a human bieng. This is already a large enough problem in America as is, it scares me to think how women will be viewed if prostitution ever became legal.
2. More married men will use prostitutes when they are legal (this can be argued that they would use them or cheat even if it was still illegal but that is not the point), this will cause a rise in the divorce rate due to cheating husbands being caught as I am sure you will be documented when you visit one.
3. Birth Control is not 100% effective, even if it is only .001% more there will be a rise in the accidental birth rate so more children will probably be abandoned to adoption agencies.
4. Some prostitutes will not be willing to register as legal, or will produce fake documentation saying they are clean of diseases (this actually happens in the netherlands). Diseases will spread faster amongst the legal prostitute's clientel and therefore amongst the populace that lie about thier disease history.
5. America can stomache seeing people mutilated, beheaded, killed, have body parts hacked off and blood everywhere... but if you show a nipple they freak and spend 2 weeks discussing it on the news. Can they really handle as big a step as legalized sex industry?

I don't like the idea of legalized prostitution, but I am not sure the cons outweigh the pros. Is a happier, healthier, more educated population that brings more money into the country and lowers the unemployment rate worth the increased divorce rate, the degradation of women, and the over all moral issues?

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:05 pm

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp

Narith · Post by **Narith** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:30 am

See that is one more of the con positions. Would you want your wife doing that if it meant she would lose her unemployment benifits if she didn't? Even if you are single no one has the right to tell you that you must have sex for money, legal or not.

Shallon · Post by **Shallon** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:09 am

I blame David Hasselhoff

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:18 am

Guys. GUYS! The story is almost certainly bullshit.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:27 am

Awwww... why you gotta spoil it Beek? I was waiting for Narith to go off on some Rsakian circle-jerk on this one.

You're no fun.

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:03 pm

Nice try Embar. You thought the story was real when you posted it.

Aabe · Post by **Aabe** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:11 pm

Well, technically your article Beek, didn't absolutly say it wasnt a true. They just suspect strongly its not true.

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:16 pm

There's more actually Aabe - the source of this article is like Britain's Fred Phelps - a real nutbag.

Aabe · Post by **Aabe** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:17 pm

Besides, be like a modern day journalist, don't let facts get in the way of a good story. =D

Narith · Post by **Narith** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:51 pm

Embar, go crawl back in the closet with your mommy and your local priest and leave me alone. When it comes to trolling you have Valoria beat hands down.

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