US looked the other way for Saddam to sell oil. <sigh>

Dumbass pinko-nazi-neoconservative-hippy-capitalists.
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US looked the other way for Saddam to sell oil. <sigh>

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7883488/
But Saddam peddled influence by awarding favored politicians, journalists and others vouchers for oil that could then be resold at a profit. He also smuggled oil to Turkey, Jordan and Syria outside the program, often with the explicit approval of the United States and the rest of the U.N. Security Council.
I know this is old news but it still ticks me off. Who is going to follow rules that get ignored?

If you are going to make a freaking rule, at least uphold it, and stop making exceptions.
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I was wondering when someone would bring this up
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international ... 46,00.html
In fact, the Senate report found that US oil purchases accounted for 52% of the kickbacks paid to the regime in return for sales of cheap oil - more than the rest of the world put together.
"The United States was not only aware of Iraqi oil sales which violated UN sanctions and provided the bulk of the illicit money Saddam Hussein obtained from circumventing UN sanctions," the report said. "On occasion, the United States actually facilitated the illicit oil sales.
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Geez with as much money as we made on the deal, kind of shoots holes in the blood for oil arguement.
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Who are you kidding? Most of them just got oil. We got BOTH blood and oil.
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Partha wrote:Who are you kidding? Most of them just got oil. We got BOTH blood and oil.
umm, we had the oil to begin with, if we were scamming the food for oil program more than anyone else.

Mearly pointing out, if we had the oil to begin with, the blood for oil arguement falls kinda flat. But I figgured you were quick enough to grasp that and not require I repeat it.
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taking the country cut out the middle man
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I am aware of one US company that seems to be directly involved in the OFF program scandle. Where is this statistic that the " US oil purchases accounted for 52% of the kickbacks paid to the regime in return for sales of cheap oil - more than the rest of the world put together."?

What I have read is that while the oil iteslf ended up in the US it was in fact purchased through legitimate oil brokers without the knowledge of the purchasers as to where the oil was coming from. My understanding of how this "voucher" system worked was the owner of the voucher would sell their rights to the oil for some small share of the final price and then the oil would be "clean". Basically they laundered the oil. Then the oil was purchased by other companies.

I am curious about any reports by the Guardian. If the left leaning folks here can question Fox.....I think I can question the integrity of a news organization that tried to influence a presidential election in this country.
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Bay Oil, owned by David Chalmers.

This is a good summary from one of my favorite blogs.
UNScam Indictments - Who Is David Chalmers?

Via Glenn (who has more), the NY Times tells us about indictments in the UNScam case:
A Texas businessman, as well as a British and a Bulgarian citizen, have been indicted in New York for reportedly paying millions of dollars in secret kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq as part of the United Nations oil-for-food program.

The Texan, David B. Chalmers, a principal of Bay Oil U.S.A. Inc., and an associate of the oil trading company, Ludmil Dionissiev, a Bulgarian and permanent American resident, were arrested this morning at their homes in Houston.
And who is David Chalmers?

Mr. Chalmers made the news last fall - the LA Times ran an Oct. 9 story, with an Oct 18 follow-up, about Americans and American companies named in a CIA report on Oil for Food. He was also subpoenaed by Hyde's committee early this year.

Now, the LA Times first report and follow-up provide grist for right-wing conspiracists (Hmm, shouldn't my hand be up?). Their Oct. 9 lead:
Three U.S. citizens, all of whom campaigned against Iraq sanctions, were among those who received special grants from a scandal-ridden oil program overseen by Saddam Hussein, according to congressional officials and a CIA report released this week.
From the Oct. 18 follow:
At least one of the men attempted to broker a peace deal between the U.S. and Iraq in a last-ditch effort to avoid war. Others waged campaigns to put an end to United Nations (news - web sites) sanctions against Iraq, portraying their efforts as humanitarian gestures to help the Iraqi people.

At the same time, all were donating to U.S. political campaigns. Since 1991, Wyatt and his wife, Lynn, for instance, have given more than $700,000 to federal campaign and political organizations, most to Democrats and most after Wyatt and his firm began to buy oil from Iraq in 1997, according to records maintained by the Campaign Finance Analysis Project.
It is worth noting that Mr. Chalmers was not named in this CIA report. However, his company, Bay Oil, was, and the LA Times tells us that "Chalmers was an ex-business associate of Wyatt's, according to Platts, an oil-industry trade publication."

Now we need to switch sides momentarily. Mr. Chalmers also made the news for his involvement in some oil for arms deals with Saddam back in the 1980s, when Saddam was the good (or at least, less bad) guy in his war with Iran. Fans of Bill Safire will remember his attempts to rouse our interest in illegal efforts by the US to arm Saddam (and let's eagerly note the possible Hillary connection!).

Forbes had coverage last November 15; the Financial Times reprised this in April 2004 (and I got help from Stephen of the AcePilots).

A check of FEC donations showed David Chalmers of TX (and Bay Oil) giving inconsequential amounts - $1,000 to Dems, $300 to Reps. But I am not satisifed that I have cracked the code for PAC and corporate donations - my totals for the Wyatts (Oscar and Lynn) are several hundred thousand short of the $700,000 figure cited by the LA Times.

OK, there are lots of leads to follow - where, for example, is my link to the CIA report from last fall? I welcome some help on this.

UPDATE: The NY Times delivers a David Chalmers profile with an interesting tidbit - Mr. Chalmers left Prescott Bush country (Connecticut) for Texas in 1993. They also mention a Forbes article, which may well be the one to which I linked. However, they overlooked, or buried, the Iraqgate connection - and they call this dirt?
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Kulaf wrote:I think I can question the integrity of a news organization that tried to influence a presidential election in this country.
If you are going to attack the Washington Times And Fox News for bias posting a link from the Gaurdian seems hypocrtical (as it would be if done in reverse).

Oil for Food was dirty on so many levels that none of the major international players was "clean". That includes everyone that knew of Iraq's under the table sales to Turkey, Jordan and Syria which seems to be damn near everyone involved with the U.N. including the U.S. government.

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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mp ... an/3183233
Houston's BayOil (USA) was the "puppeteer" in a scheme to help Russian politicians profit illegally from the United Nations' oil-for-food program and pay kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime, Senate investigators say.

The Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations contends the trading firm, led by Houston's David Chalmers Jr., played a key role in helping Saddam curry favor with Russian leaders. At the time, Saddam was trying to win friends on the U.N. Security Council.
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Klast Brell wrote:http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mp ... an/3183233
Houston's BayOil (USA) was the "puppeteer" in a scheme to help Russian politicians profit illegally from the United Nations' oil-for-food program and pay kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime, Senate investigators say.

The Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations contends the trading firm, led by Houston's David Chalmers Jr., played a key role in helping Saddam curry favor with Russian leaders. At the time, Saddam was trying to BUY friends on the U.N. Security Council.
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