That's what this BBC News article sounds like it's trying to say. It even uses the terms "gang" and "gun culture" as if they're interchangible. But what can you expect from a bunch of limeys? There's only one cure for gang violence and that's National Revolutionary Vigilantism. Encourage kids to become vigilantes at a young age and they'll grow up to be citizens, Patriots, warriors of a new age of justice and retribution.
When all else fails blame an inanimate object. I guess matches cause arson.
But maybe I'm wrong because I own. Maybe people with the guns do not commit crimes.
The culture of the UK is substantially different to the US when it comes to guns, and it should be noted they have no "second amendment" (which I'll mention later). Until recently, not even police used to carry guns except in special situations. Realistically that's not such a bad society when you think about it.
Personally I don't care much which way the gun debate goes. I can see significant benefits in registering both guns and owners in much the same way you register cars and drivers but the level of gun ownership permitted is really a society/cultural thing - with the level obviously much higher in the US than, say, the UK or Australia.
I've yet to see any broad evidence that crime and gun ownership have any correlation either positive or negative that isn't related to external social issues. Specific areas show positive and negative indications but they tend to be very localized and dependant on other factors.
As far as the 2nd amendment goes in the US, I see it breaking one of two ways:
i) The individual has complete and unrestricted permission to own and carry any weapon they want, from a spud gun to a thermonuclear device. After all, what use is protection from government oppression if the citizens don't have the same access to weapons the government does?
or
ii) The individual has no rights and guns are only permitted for use in state controllerd militias (ie National Guard). Ownership of guns is therefore an issue to be legislated independantly of the constitution.
Looking over USSC decisions, they seem to come down more for (ii) than (i), but whether the 2nd amendment actually gives the right to ownership isn't particularly relavent in my mind. Like I said - I don't really think it matters.
Yah I know about the whole gun culture of UK. Its just that this article is pretty much how many, including the press here (at least in Chicago), tend to illustrate guns and gun crime.
ii) The individual has no rights and guns are only permitted for use in state controllerd militias (ie National Guard). Ownership of guns is therefore an issue to be legislated independantly of the constitution.
In the Frankfurt airport the first thing I always saw were 2-3 decked out polizei with MP5s and a big fuckin dog. Guess how little shit happened there.
I used a 249 for 2 years, and a M4 the other two years. I hate guns, I dont feel the urge to fire one ever again, but I understand their usefulness. Im not going to blame a tool because some users are being stupid or gung-ho. Thats like saying steel-toed boots should be illegal if i round kick someone in the face and kill them. Would they have lived if i was barefoot or wearing Chuck Taylor's? Who the fuck cares, i still kicked em.
ii) The individual has no rights and guns are only permitted for use in state controllerd militias (ie National Guard). Ownership of guns is therefore an issue to be legislated independantly of the constitution.
That's how i'd prefer it.
But you're a closet communist, so we'd expect that.
I am all for a handgun ban. The only people carrying them should be police. You can defend your house much better with a sawed off shotgun than you can with a handgun.
I used to be afraid of guns until I was actually taught how to use and handle them and respect them. But anyways this is just an excuse to whip out the awesome chick gunholster
I was pro gun.....until my friend got shot in the chest with a .44 magnum in a McDonalds and died. Fortunatly the guy left his AK-47 in the car for some reason before he went on his little shooting spree which ended with him eating one of his own bullets.
Kula wrote:I am all for a handgun ban. The only people carrying them should be police. You can defend your house much better with a sawed off shotgun than you can with a handgun.
Eh?
I know I'd rather have a .50 cal Desert Eagle in my hands than some scatter shot.
And yes, I've been on the working end of both types of firearms.
And yes, I've seen what both types can do in a "tense" situation.
My mom dropped a guy who tried to rob our liquor store. Clerk dropped his accomplice. Mom used a .45... clerk used a 12 gauge(first shot was birdshot, second was buckshot) . Took me 15 minutes to clean up the blood from the dude that got shot with the .45... took me 3 months to find all the giblets from the guy shot with the 12 gauge. I was finding pieces of fat, clothing and bone stuck to the bottles for what seemed like forever.
I'm anti-gun ever since my parents used to make me get up at 4:30 am every morning to walk 10 miles around the farm shooting at the cockatoos that would try to eat our sorghum. Shoulder gets pretty sore after a while.
Besides, why would you use bird or buckshot against a person? I'd load solids - preferably with a hollow point.
Ddrak wrote:I'm anti-gun ever since my parents used to make me get up at 4:30 am every morning to walk 10 miles around the farm shooting at the cockatoos that would try to eat our sorghum. Shoulder gets pretty sore after a while.
Besides, why would you use bird or buckshot against a person? I'd load solids - preferably with a hollow point.
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The birdshot was loaded first as a gentle reminder. The buckshot was loaded after the birdshot just in case they didn't get the hint.
It even uses the terms "gang" and "gun culture" as if they're interchangible. But what can you expect from a bunch of limeys? 
There's only one cure for gang violence and that's National Revolutionary Vigilantism. Encourage kids to become vigilantes at a young age and they'll grow up to be citizens, Patriots, warriors of a new age of justice and retribution.
