Fundamental Differences

Post by **Ddrak** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:16 pm

Partha wrote:Asperger's is a mental condition, not a social framework.

You've never lived in San Jose, right?

Dd

Fallakin Kuvari · Post by **Fallakin Kuvari** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:40 pm

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:19 am

Baginns Hobbiton wrote:How is someone at minimum wage supposed to pay off $100,000 of medical debt when he/she is having trouble supporting their family to begin with?

What entitles someone making minimum wage to healthcare costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Arkaron · Post by **Arkaron** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:25 am

Illness actually does discriminate. Poorer people are more likely to contract disease. There's a study of blindness throughout income if I remember correctly.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:33 am

Kulaf wrote:What entitles someone making minimum wage to healthcare costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Wow, Kulaf. I had no idea you were self-insured and paid the full cost of all health treatement you and your family receive. Most people are pussies and freeloaders who buy insurance and never pay the actual cost for treatment on their own.

Or maybe you meant to ask what entitles poor people to health coverage costing several thousand a year? We've already answered that question.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:39 am

Lurker wrote:
Kulaf wrote:What entitles someone making minimum wage to healthcare costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?
Wow, Kulaf. I had no idea you were self-insured and paid the full cost of all health treatement you and your family receive. Most people are pussies and freeloaders who buy insurance and never pay the actual cost for treatment on their own.

Or maybe you meant to ask what entitles poor people to health coverage costing several thousand a year? We've already answered that question.

Yeah I also pay into Social Security for benefits I may never collect on so all of you might be able to.

What was your point again?

Arkaron · Post by **Arkaron** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:53 am

Social Security's not the greatest example. At 27, I've been paying into SS for a decade and I don't expect to see any of it. Ever. Even if I needed it.

But I do expect to need health services. As such I actively avoid employment with companies with crappy insurance. Not everybody has the same options.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:58 am

It's a perfect example. You could pay into it all your life and never get any benefit from it......or you could become totally disabled at 28 and get benefits you never paid for for the rest of your life.

Just like health insurance.

Post by **Ddrak** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:19 am

Kulaf wrote:What entitles someone making minimum wage to healthcare costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Living in a society compassionate enough to value life at that level.

Dd

Baginns Hobbiton · Post by **Baginns Hobbiton** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:08 am

Hey there,

Kulaf wrote: What entitles someone making minimum wage to healthcare costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Ditto what Ddrak said. I think the right to life is a basic human right. Are you going to answer my question? What makes a baby worth saving but not an adult?

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:20 am

I'm not going to answer your question for three reasons:

1) I don't jump through hoops at your behest.
2) I am actually pro-abortion which you'd know if you actully cared to.
3) The question is not germain to the topic we are discussing.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:25 am

Arkaron wrote:Social Security's not the greatest example. At 27, I've been paying into SS for a decade and I don't expect to see any of it. Ever. Even if I needed it.

But I do expect to need health services. As such I actively avoid employment with companies with crappy insurance. Not everybody has the same options.

QFE

Arky has the right mindset... she shops employers for better health care packages. It's how the free market system works.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:31 am

Or doesn't work depending on what side of the fence you land on.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:32 am

Lurker wrote:Or doesn't work depending on what side of the fence you land on.

That's a victim mentality.

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:36 am

Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Arkaron wrote:Social Security's not the greatest example. At 27, I've been paying into SS for a decade and I don't expect to see any of it. Ever. Even if I needed it.

But I do expect to need health services. As such I actively avoid employment with companies with crappy insurance. Not everybody has the same options.
QFE

Arky has the right mindset... she shops employers for better health care packages. It's how the free market system works.

I don't believe Arky's mindset inferred not wanting basic healthcare for people.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:42 am

Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Lurker wrote:Or doesn't work depending on what side of the fence you land on.
That's a victim mentality.

Which brings us back to Ddrak's statement.

And talk about victim mentality. Look at Jecks "b-b-b-but, Tyranny" rant or your whining about taxes or griping about providing basic services to people. I've said in the past, listening to some of you there's no more persecuted group in America than the wealthy.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:52 am

Harlowe wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Arkaron wrote:Social Security's not the greatest example. At 27, I've been paying into SS for a decade and I don't expect to see any of it. Ever. Even if I needed it.

But I do expect to need health services. As such I actively avoid employment with companies with crappy insurance. Not everybody has the same options.
QFE

Arky has the right mindset... she shops employers for better health care packages. It's how the free market system works.
I don't believe Arky's mindset inferred not wanting basic healthcare for people.

What in my statement said she did?

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:53 am

Lurker wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Lurker wrote:Or doesn't work depending on what side of the fence you land on.
That's a victim mentality.
Which brings us back to Ddrak's statement.

And talk about victim mentality. Look at Jecks "b-b-b-but, Tyranny" rant or your whining about taxes or griping about providing basic services to people. I've said in the past, listening to some of you there's no more persecuted group in America than the wealthy.

What does Dd's statement have to do with adopting a victim mentality?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:59 am

None of this has to do with "victim mentality". That was your term. It doesn't apply to someone who can't get health coverage in our broken system.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:01 am

Lurker wrote:None of this has to do with "victim mentality". That was your term. It doesn't apply to someone who can't get health coverage in our broken system.

If none of this has anything to do with a victim mentality, then why did you say my comment on victim mentality had something to do with Dd;s statement?

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