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[Partha]

1) It's you. There's no there there. I might as well reply to all your posts with 'Green Vagina Donkey Fart', and it's probably more appropriate to whatever nonsense you're trying to convey.

2) And? The people running things still aren't declaring divine rights to rule the world, instead they have to depend on the majority to keep them in power. That makes it better.

3) Widely shared prosperity is better for a nation than an elite strata controlling most of the wealth. If you disagree with that premise, seek out Mr. Gorbachev and dream about the good old days.

4) If I ever see him again, that'll be time #3 and I'll be glad to tell him he should quit talking nonsense about 'negative' or 'positive' liberties.

5) Economically? Wealth spread as widely as possible among the citizens. A nation full of owners is better than a nation with a few owners and a lot of renters.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

1) It's you. There's no there there. I might as well reply to all your posts with 'Green Vagina Donkey Fart', and it's probably more appropriate to whatever nonsense you're trying to convey.

2) And? The people running things still aren't declaring divine rights to rule the world, instead they have to depend on the majority to keep them in power. That makes it better.

3) Widely shared prosperity is better for a nation than an elite strata controlling most of the wealth. If you disagree with that premise, seek out Mr. Gorbachev and dream about the good old days.

4) If I ever see him again, that'll be time #3 and I'll be glad to tell him he should quit talking nonsense about 'negative' or 'positive' liberties.

5) Economically? Wealth spread as widely as possible among the citizens. A nation full of owners is better than a nation with a few owners and a lot of renters.

1) The same could be said for you, lately. And thats quite sad, you seemed to actually have a brain at one point. Also, "there's no there there" makes absolutely no sense, you should try to correct that at your earliest convenience.

2) No, just "Divine Rights" to rule over everyone in this land and pass things that the majority of the populace doesn't want. That doesn't make things better, thats people ruling over you without regard to the majorities wishes... exactly the opposite of how our country was setup. Expanded: there is little to no accountability in Washington anymore.

3) Keeping people on a "even playing field" is better than promoting prosperity? Protip: America didn't become a super power in the world because everyone was "on an even playing field". We became a super power because we had the freedom to live prosperous lives and people had to work hard to do so... thats the essence of what being an American is, working hard and becoming prosperous. Why do you think Communism has never worked? (Sans Cuba, but people still flee there on rafts to America so they can escape Communism. And things aren't exactly sunshine and lollipops in China either.)

4)

5) So basically Communism with the property belonging to the citizens rather than the government. Please, correct me if I'm reading that wrong.

[Partha]

I thought about replying to this seriously point by point, but there's just no use with some of it.

1) Green Vagina Donkey Fart.

2) You mean like the Fourteenth Amendment? Or maybe the Civil Rights Act?

3) Ooo, inserting your own terms. I said 'widely shared prosperity' - which is what we had in post-wwII America, with a prosperous middle class that was able to buy homes and cars and be physically invested in their communities and their companies. Now you have north of 80% of all stock in the hands of 1% of the country and well over half the wealth, while real wages for the average American have been falling for twenty years or more.

As to why Communism never works? Because someone has to make the trains run on time, and there's no inducement for anyone to in an idealized Communist system. It promotes loafing. Plus in the real world, they are really just despotism with a new jargon - a few control all the wealth. But you like that, because you defend what America's turning into instead of what it was economically.

Communist.

4) Disbelieve at your own risk of stupidity - oh wait, you've already got there. Nevermind.

5) That's the theory. The theory, however, never holds up to reality, and never will, so you might as well fantasize about something a little more realistic. Like the plot of 'The Day After Tomorrow' becoming true.

[Ddrak]

Communism is the perfect system if you believe that all people are interested in placing the good of the group above the good of themselves. It only takes one person to put themselves above the group and you have an instant dictatorship.

The real trick with economic systems is to get the state of the system as close to communism's ideal as possible while avoiding the pitfalls of people rorting the system. The sweet spot varies by nation and culture but mostly falls into a fairly narrow band of capitalist infrastructure with some degree of welfare.

Dd

[Fallakin Kuvari]

I thought about replying to this seriously point by point, but there's just no use with some of it.

1) Green Vagina Donkey Fart.

2) You mean like the Fourteenth Amendment? Or maybe the Civil Rights Act?

3) Ooo, inserting your own terms. I said 'widely shared prosperity' - which is what we had in post-wwII America, with a prosperous middle class that was able to buy homes and cars and be physically invested in their communities and their companies. Now you have north of 80% of all stock in the hands of 1% of the country and well over half the wealth, while real wages for the average American have been falling for twenty years or more.

As to why Communism never works? Because someone has to make the trains run on time, and there's no inducement for anyone to in an idealized Communist system. It promotes loafing. Plus in the real world, they are really just despotism with a new jargon - a few control all the wealth. But you like that, because you defend what America's turning into instead of what it was economically.

Communist.

4) Disbelieve at your own risk of stupidity - oh wait, you've already got there. Nevermind.

5) That's the theory. The theory, however, never holds up to reality, and never will, so you might as well fantasize about something a little more realistic. Like the plot of 'The Day After Tomorrow' becoming true.

1)

2) ... No, like Healthcare. The majority of American didn't want the bill as it was, they passed it anyway. North fought and won a war for the 14th amendment, while some Democrats (read: Robert Byrd) vehemently fought the Civil Rights Act.

3) LOL, there is still a 'widely held prosperity' among the middle class. They still buy houses, cars and invest wherever they want to. Some were living well beyond their means and weren't invested in their communities, but thats their choice to do so.

In no way am I defending what the country has come to, I think you're grossly misrepresenting where it is though.



4) I don't disbelieve that you've seen Obama talk, a lot of people can claim that.

5) And you call me a Communist...

[Harlowe]

If Partha or Lurker would have said what Ddrak just did, Fallakin would be having a Glenn-mal flag-waving, eagle crying seizure.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Communism (read: marxism) is an idealist system. I see no fault in anything Dd said and I'm certain that he's not as delusional as Lurker (to an extent) or Partha in believing that it will ever happen.

[Partha]

English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

[Harlowe]

He only speaks Glenngish.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Har har.