Obamacare and Medicare

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Obamacare and Medicare

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Obama admin states that Obamacare will result in Medicare prescription drug plans staying roughly the same in 2013 as they are today.

Analysts say otherwise, with costs jumping into the double digits.

Note: Obama admin doesn't refute the analyst's report.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen ... le-digits/

Hmmmm.. what a surprise there. Must be using the unemployment math...
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The report seems to lay it out pretty clearly. The administration is claiming that plans should remain at about $30/mo. The report quoted by Forbes is essentially saying that plans running lower than that amount (typically to buy up market share) are going to be raising premiums. Not a particularly surprising outcome and not out of line with the administration statement?

Remember, the quote from the administration is "The average 2013 monthly premium for basic prescription drug coverage is expected to be $30." and not that individual plans won't change. That number appears to be holding from what I've read.

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Looks like Embar didn't bother reading his own linked article or the CMS announcement.
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You seem to really be grasping for something to attack.
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That's pretty funny, since Allu was just talking to me about Rush Limbaugh and the whole crazy person saying Obama phone.

OF COURSE you post it. hahahahahaha!

By the way,
http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/faq/obama-phone

Congress created this program in 1996 and it's been funded and expanded by both republican and democratic administrations and both republican and democratic controlled congress.
A thorough review of the subject reveals that there is indeed a program to provide heavily subsidized cell phones for welfare recipients. It’s an outgrowth of a program called Lifeline Assistance, which was established in 1996 by FCC mandate to help low-income people cover the cost of telephone installation. It expanded to include assistance for cell phones in 2008, which is the year Obama got elected, but George Bush was president at the time.

The qualifications for receiving assistance for this program haven’t changed since the Clinton years. “An applicant is generally eligible if they are at or below 135-150% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines (depending upon the state in which they live), or if they already participate in one of many public assistance programs such as Medicaid, food stamps, energy assistance, public housing and others,” according to FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net. Incentives are offered for bringing other denizens of Food Stamp Nation into the program.

So it would be more accurate to describe these subsidized cell phones as “Bush phones” or “Clinton phones,” if one wanted to bring the name of a president into the discussion.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Obama Phone
All I could think of was Banana Phone
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Torakus wrote:
Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Obama Phone
All I could think of was Banana Phone
And now you know why all the white people went crazy.
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Hey Partha, were you able to get insured through your states CHIP program?
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Embar Angylwrath wrote:Hey Partha, were you able to get insured through your states CHIP program?
Nope.
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I wonder why Drudge and Rush are pulling out that old "Obama phone" chestnut again, when it was Fact-Checked back in 2009.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/
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Partha wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:Hey Partha, were you able to get insured through your states CHIP program?
Nope.
Why? Were you denied coverage? If so, why? Seems to me that was a slam dunk for you.
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