Enshadowed and Zarake, nice guild management

Loranis · Post by **Loranis** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:19 am

Chants Evensong wrote:
Damn you caught us, this reminds me of the time my friends held a suprise birthday party for me on my 16th birthday and caught me with my dick in a dog.
That's pretty funny. Not bad at all, really. But if you replace "dog" with "cat" it's even funnier.

Even funnier if you replace it with Mouse

Loranis · Post by **Loranis** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:36 am

Darck Aberration wrote: Enshadowed doesn't tolerate nice people in the guild, its a big no no... so these nice people are promptly asked to leave the guild and join SR.

So true, i was in enshadowed for 2 weeks and then Steejans took me aside and told me i was too nice and i needed to go.

Thats why i joined SR.

On the plus side iv been working at it really hard and i think im really not nice anymore, just yesterday i intentionaly trained 60+ enshadowed people in HoH!

So... think i could reapply now?

/plead

Post by **Ddrak** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:38 am

I don't think people should live in glass houses. Who likes pooping in front of a crowd?

I'm wondering more about the crowd that comes to watch than the person that does the pooping...

Dd

Talaena · Post by **Talaena** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:55 am

/peers up and down this thread

Does indeed make you wonder.

Burz · Post by **Burz** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:13 am

And its usually never the same people in these groups. If it were just one person, or one group even, and it had only happened one time, i could see the "guild" looking past it and shrugging their shoulders over it, but the amount of times things like this has happened; we are getting close to half the guild roster in participants in asshat behaviour.

Yah, only 80% of the guild are asshats. There's always that 1 person in every group that tries to compromise....bastards.

-Burzlaff; turns 11 next week.

Tanari · Post by **Tanari** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:19 am

Triage, the only problem with your statement is this... i removed myself from any connection with Fenye. When i had had enough, i ended any type of friendship there was. There comes a time when the people you associate with exhibit the same behaviour over and over again, and the more you condone that behaviour by staying around them, the more people associate it with you.

You are right tho, i began to realize people associated me with Fenye and thought i would act in a similar manner, so i stopped that. To this day there is noone in the game that despises Fenye more then me. So Triage, as the issue stands, how long will you or others in the guild continue to be associated with people a large portion of the server consider asses? I know several of ex-ensh have already left or retired due to this. I severed my ties with an asshat, how about you?

As for your trowing stones analogy, i dont throw stones about subjects im not willing to admit to.

Tanari Lilvox
65 Forest Stalker
Ambridahl
65 Storm Warden
Silent Redemption

Bahd Zoolander · Post by **Bahd Zoolander** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:46 am

Loranis wrote:
Chants Evensong wrote:
Damn you caught us, this reminds me of the time my friends held a suprise birthday party for me on my 16th birthday and caught me with my dick in a dog.
That's pretty funny. Not bad at all, really. But if you replace "dog" with "cat" it's even funnier.
Even funnier if you replace it with Mouse

But only when you replace it with "pencil sharpener" do you begin to approach the truth.

Burz · Post by **Burz** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:47 am

Hand Cranked I hope. Electric is cheating.

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:22 pm

I'm growing tired of this entire thread, but Tanari's well written response deserves a reply.

Loon, you dont think its right to base the opinion that the entire guild of Enshadowed are a bunch of assholes because of "one group", and on that fact alone, i would agree with you.

Cool, I wish more people did.

The problem is, many people, in the game and on this board, have seen repeatedly that members of Ensh. pay very little attention or care if other people in the game are going for a particular mob/camp/etc.

I don't know the previous incidents, I was not in Enshadowed then. I can only speak for what I have seen and what is occuring presently. I don't see this present issue as being a problem! Those who see it as one, are people who already had a grudge with Enshadowed and are attempting to use this as an axe to grind. (This has already been stated!)

In this present case, the raidleader of the "wronged party" has already voiced that Meaddas (who was one of the present 6 "oppressors") was reasonable! He has already verified that Meaddas's log was accurate. I don't understand how this instance may fall into the other previous rants, when in-fact, this incident has already been declared as such:

Go beat some other horse, this one's dead and buried.

If the Enshadowed people who were present truly did an extremely rude and heinous act, I would perhaps be the first person calling for some form of justice. If the Va'Dyn was already engaged and a group of Enshadowed approached, started blasting/fighting away and kill stole it, I would be upset. I would hope that a guide/GM had witnessed the event and that suspensions/bannings/whatever would occur for those involved. I would not want to be guilded with people who engage in this sort of behavior. *shrug*

Regardless, the above did not occur. What did happen has already been explained and people have formed their respective opinions. I believe those that harbor a strong dislike for Enshadowed will likely never change their opinions, and they see this incident as fueling their beliefs. Those that like Enshadowed, probably understand that shit happens, and respect that Meaddas posted his logs and that Nasrudin made it clear that Enshadowed leadership (Meaddas) posted accurate logs and was very reasonable.

If Enshadowed groups or raids truly did everything they could to disrespect other people's gaming, I would not be in their ranks. However, I think everyone pays the same fee per month and that "mob entitlement" is bullshit. Yes, I respect when someone else is trying for a mob that I desire. If they were there first, I respect that and I expect them to do the same for me in return. But of course, I don't anyone is more entitled to the looting rights of any mob (that I can access) than I am.

To end my rambling, I appreciated a few people's posts here, and I'd like to give them some credit:

Loranis - funny man. Thanks for the grin. And yes, you did train Enshadowed! I wonder how many people would proclaim "SR is evil" if I ranted you?

Nionailz: Stay away from my dog. Thanks.

Tanari - well said. I hope no "future pattens" emerge to support anti-Enshadowed sentiments. Time will tell.

Relbeek - how are you going to keep this thread going? Your board is growing calm, I guess Brell is "too nice," eh?

Subtle - Thank you for posting again about Tarzzan, despite my request not to. You didn't surprise me.

Cheers,

Loon

Awea · Post by **Awea** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:44 pm

LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

Pirtdica · Post by **Pirtdica** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:50 pm

If your neighbor every morning gives you the finger you might rant to how rude he is when someone else brings up his name... but what your neighbor does is not illegal.

I did not say enshadowed wasn't doing anything wrong there, I said that most people consider their behavior rude. Don't twist my words Nionailz, or are you 10 yrs old too and can't read?

I'd think if your neighbour gave you the finger every morning that would be harassment which is illegal. False annalogies are fucking stupid anyways. Rude behaviour is opinion based.

And honestly I wasn't trying to subtely slam you I just don't remember your name cause I don't give a fuck.

And maybe you were educated on the other side of the tracks but I could read when I was 6 thank you very much.

PS: I am now 9 years old please stop sending my PM's for cyber ladies my parents dont appreciate it.

Enrichwar · Post by **Enrichwar** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:09 pm

I kinda think, if i had a neighbor, that flipped me off every morning it would be pretty funny. Probally best thing to do, would be to flip him off.

Corrode · Post by **Corrode** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:10 pm

Enshadowed is no more childish then anyone else who posts here.

In the situation which they were placed, they acted accordingly.

I see some lower level, less experienced players (nothing wrong with this), trying to take down something that they obviously could not.

When a higher level, higher geared, higher experienced group of players came in they were obviously not happy. Who would be? But lets realize, the comments *they* fired upon that group were just as much, if not more childish then what was said by Zarake and Meaddas.

Or maybe I dont know what im talking about, maybe.

Corrode
58 Paladin
Froglok

OMG ICKHOR · Post by **OMG ICKHOR** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:26 pm

Suva, Ickhor, not classy not classy at all.

I'm not classy because I defended your guild?

...deep breath...

OH NOES NOW ILL NEVER GET MY EPIC!!!!!

Barrin · Post by **Barrin** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:02 am

OH NOES NOW ILL NEVER GET MY EPIC!!!!!

Nasrudin · Post by **Nasrudin** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:03 am

Corrode wrote:I see some lower level, less experienced players (nothing wrong with this), trying to take down something that they obviously could not.

We've killed him before with less people of lower levels.

We would have killed him. Only reason we wiped the first time is someone ran over a reaver trap and brought six or so in.

Nanilae Mezenrez · Post by **Nanilae Mezenrez** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:01 am

/spam the thread with a bunch of useless shit nobody cares about except a handfull of social retards

thanks! I will!

Hi Nj!!

We'll start with that because I had to go all the way to the "Njorls, get a life" thread to find my log in name. Then I couldn't find my password, but Relbeek sent me a new one and a funny note. Yes, it's me, post two, still no poodles.

Soooo . . . I saw Zenas, and then Yuri in Trials the other night and after /dancing a bit, I said "you're not doing exe, are ya? and GOD FORBID you're ahead of us!"

They weren't, and Mustardboy gave us the lucky buff!

Dexi's flagged!

Anywho!! Back on subject!

however, if the people in enshadowed are anything like Loon...

Nobody picked up on this one? Loons, the lot of em!

Relbeek, I am such a spelling cop you wouldn't believe it! Typos kill me. I take pens to my books! If I typo here, it's because I get this strange form of lysdexia when I type on the boards or in-game. "Juts" is my worst offense. So . . . did you mean to say intittied?

Two more things . . .

1. I got off the Ensh wagon a year ago cause it moves WAY too fast! (Credo first anniversary! WOOT!), I don't jerk em, I just send tells and /dance alot!

2. I AM the nicest person on Brell!! So BACK OFF, the lot of you!

I left Ensh and did NOT apply to SR. Loranis is ALMOST as nice as me and he left Ensh and joined SR, so maybe you're referring to year old events plus . . . nah, that'd be Sapharma.

Ok, I lied, three things. The nicest person on Brell justifying a blind hatred for Sapharma.
(Ha! Relbeek, I fixed jsutifying)

3. I was in the guild from its inception, and they hated us before we were born. Out of everyone who posts "Enshadowed sucks, but not all of them", these two are the worst. Enshadowed is what, almost three years old now? There has never been a post about Enshadowed, anywhere, that these two did not respond to venomously. They could sneak a jab into a "Thank You" post. I used to literally count how many replies it took to get an "it figures, but not from ALL of them . . . QUOTE QUOTE QUOTE . . . this one time . . ."

It was usually three.

Yes dears, I know. We were born evil, you knew it was coming, you sat in wait and you saw us do ALOT of evil that I apparently missed because they did it all on Pacific Time. After I left, they were able to open up their schedule to oppress across multiple time-zones.

World Peas,

ZanypherCocoapuffs · Post by **ZanypherCocoapuffs** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:05 am

Jesus fucking christ... can we please get a few of the regular lesbians back on here so they can do their own circle jerking... or knob rubbing.. or whatever the fuck it is they do?

Its more entertaining then opening up the Can O Ensh Ass.

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:01 am

3. I was in the guild from its inception, and they hated us before we were born. Out of everyone who posts "Enshadowed sucks, but not all of them", these two are the worst. Enshadowed is what, almost three years old now? There has never been a post about Enshadowed, anywhere, that these two did not respond to venomously. They could sneak a jab into a "Thank You" post. I used to literally count how many replies it took to get an "it figures, but not from ALL of them . . . QUOTE QUOTE QUOTE . . . this one time . . ."

What a moron post

First of all.. there is a rave to enshadowed on brell.. did either one of post a single thing on it? Nope. heh. I actually posted on here about that rave that Dorick was a class act.. heaven forbid.

Second of all.. I have never posted anything on people in enshadowed that was not a rant about them already doing something bad.. In the rare case of people in enshadowed not being wrong, I actually stuck up for them. I realize some people have selective memories and all.

But you go on and keep hating me and saph all you want becauise of the rant boards that you all claim mean nothing lol. It is pretty ironic the hatred some people spout about me and saph, while at the same time they claim the rant boards dont mean anything.. and that they are a joke

. I have a very hard time believing people that say.. Rant boards dont mean anything, we read them for fun.. but *Saph and Pharma I will train you repeatedly in game, I wont repect any camp y ou ever have and I hate your guts.*

Again it isnt my fault people in Enshadowed gets ranted.. thats the other ironic thing.. you guys hate me and saph for posting on rants about enshadowed lol. but we didnt start the rants.. I have never started an enshadowed rant ever.. I just post my opinions to ones that already started by other people and will throw in incidents that help show a pattern of behavior if it fits. Maybe people should spend more time worrying about why they get ranted in the first place, and not on the people that supposedly dont matter and contribute to them /snicker. The hatred some people have is so obviously hypocritical it is laughable when in the same breath many claim rants are a joke, and dont matter. This hatred you have, hasnt affected me yet in game or in R/L.. so you keep on carrying that anger it is *really* hurting me big time! /snicker (yes I know I was redundant here.. maybe saying the same thing twice, someone will get it) One may think the reason you hate us so much, is because our posts have been so dead on, you couldnt refute them

The reason I dont tie the entire guild into my posts, or moronic one.. is because contrary to popular believe I have some good friends in enshadowed, and I know that the entire guild is not like the few fuktards that get ranted. Excuse me for being one of the few people that has the ability to distinquish that.. You hate me so much, you even try to insult this, I guess it would be better for me to just rant the entire guild. Ok just for you... Credos is propably the most moronic guild on brell.. since one of their members is an idiot.. that make you feel better now? (note to credos, before my moron tells you all how I hate you.. read the context).

Lastly, is it me... or is enshadowed's most vehement defender on this board.. just joined them and knows relatively NOTHING about things people did in the past.. even said so him/herself. *yawn*

Subtle

Awea · Post by **Awea** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:34 am

Cliffnotes:

Ensh sucks
But they were in the right!
What about the first time!
Bandwagon bitch!
lol lol lol ololrofl *yawn*

lolololololo
Some people not getting epics
Lesbians wanted, apply within.
LOOK! THEY DID SOMETHING BAD 2 YEARS AGO! FUCKERS!

<-- bored