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Select wrote:Tax, if Fal is warning about Asus cooling, you might want to consider another brand. Alienware had awful cooling and no cooling pad could save mine from melting itself over and over again. Maybe cooling pads are better than four years ago, but I would not risk it.

I've always heard Acer, Sager, and Asus were the best, with Acer and Sager at the top. When I can afford one, I will consider those two brands. Toshibas are pretty good, too, now that I think about the word of mouth.

P.S. How's your Roomba? I've seen a few deals on them lately, but still can't drop the money.
Alienware has had MANY design issues that I wouldn't carry over to any other brand when it comes to thermals. The ASUS will get very hot, but not do damage to itself. The main concern you will want to have is your HDD temps getting over 55c which will reduce it's life.

Also you need to be very very specific when referring to Acer, Acer owns Gateway which *used to* do one thing right, their FX series notebooks. They packed a ton of goodies into a 17" chasis which included a current day top processor, 64bit os, RAID (2 hdd slots for a stripe), and a WXUGA screen. The problem in the past year since they released their last major overhaul is they haven't changed much, just continued to drop the price. All in all that's a good thing since you can get a laptop that will compete with what Tax just bought for around $1050 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gateway+-+F ... Id=9605365). I actually own the model I'm talking about (P7811-FX) when it was first released at $1450 and nothing could touch it. Now you have more options at a lower price and that is a good thing.

Tax - While waiting for your new toy read all 101 pages of this.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=393735
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Select wrote:Tax, if Fal is warning about Asus cooling, you might want to consider another brand. Alienware had awful cooling and no cooling pad could save mine from melting itself over and over again. Maybe cooling pads are better than four years ago, but I would not risk it.
I'm warning about laptop cooling in general, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I just wouldn't trust built in fans for gaming in such a compact environment, regardless of how good the laptop's cooling is supposed to be.
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You moron, Fallakin - FALundir.

Falundir:
Alienware has had MANY design issues that I wouldn't carry over to any other brand when it comes to thermals. The ASUS will get very hot, but not do damage to itself. The main concern you will want to have is your HDD temps getting over 55c which will reduce it's life.
Touche. I can agree with that, completely. I have yet to see anyone with as many problems as Alienware owners.

I also never knew that about Acer. How about them apart from Gateway?
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Maybe you should've spelled out his entire name the first time... or even just threw in a 'u'.
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Maybe you should have read the last post before you posted where he replied to me. Or maybe you should have read the thread. :roll:
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I did read the thread from my last post. I also talked about cooling issues (in the form of I wouldn't get a gaming laptop without some sort of additional cooling). So maybe you should stop jumping to conclusions and come to terms with the fact that it can be rather confusing determining who you're talking to when you say 'Fal'.
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Select is always so combative! I could see it either way, but please CTFD, it's not that big of a deal.

I get the new laptop today some time and decided to work from home to catch UPS (otherwise I have to drive out to bfe to pick it up at 9pm tonight). I'm rurl excited to fire it up for the first time and start deleting bloatware. Hopefully I get an actual windows 7 disc instead of a "backup" disc like I got from Toshiba. I'll wipe the hard drive and get some Ubuntu/Win7 dual boot going.

Speaking of Ubuntu, has anyone used Karmic yet? Any big changes?
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No need to wipe the HDD, you can just use the installer of any Linux distro to resize the HD. Also W7 finally has the ability to do that live as well while in Windows.

Select - Acer is the budget brand for notebooks and netbooks. They like to stay on the low end of build quality, but for cheap they aren't all that bad. I'd still suggest someone pay $200 more and get a proper mid grade notebook.
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Falundir X`Viento wrote:No need to wipe the HDD, you can just use the installer of any Linux distro to resize the HD. Also W7 finally has the ability to do that live as well while in Windows
Well, wiping the HDD was more for the bloatware than anything. It's usually faster (maybe not for windows 7?) than uninstalling 15+ programs.
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This tends to work fairly well for getting rid of the junk. http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

It'd be nice to get a real Windows DVD with stuff again, and I hope you do, but more likely is an option to burn restore DVDs that will bring it back to brand new... with the crap. The bad thing about this is that even if you somehow acquire a real Windows DVD the key supplied with the laptop is an OEM key that can't be used to activate retail Windows.
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I've activated plenty of retail Windows XP installs using OEM keys... That something they changed with Vista?
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Not only will you probably not get a real install disc, you'll probably get a home version of Windows. If it were me I'd just buy the Ultimate version, blow out the hard drive and re-install with the store bought version. Not sure if Newegg is still running their launch specials for Win7 but they had some real good deals a week or so ago. Windows 7 rules.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I did read the thread
Fallakin Kuvari wrote:but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
Fallakin Kuvari wrote:So maybe you should stop jumping to conclusions
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I've activated plenty of retail Windows XP installs using OEM keys... That something they changed with Vista?
No, this is with XP as well. If you have a full product key it will work, but the number on the Windows sticker on the side of the computer is not always a real product key. The HP I have has the actual key, but the Dells we had at work had some other number. For those the restore disk was the only way to go. Very annoying.

Maybe Dell is the only one that does it. *shrug*
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Just use magic jellybean to find your windows key...

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Got the new laptop in yesterday and have been playing around with it quite a bit, so far I love it. It's pretty much the dorkiest thing ever with a big blue light-up logo of "republic of gamers" on the back of the monitor as well as flashing blue side lights (that I turned off). The space bar has a little "jump logo" on it and the wsad keys have arrows on them. :lol:

Never mind on reinstalling windows, there really isn't much bloatware on this thing. I'm happy to report it has none of the programs on this list.

Windows 7 is pretty nice so far, I'm liking all the eye candy.
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Freecare Spiritwise wrote:Not only will you probably not get a real install disc, you'll probably get a home version of Windows. If it were me I'd just buy the Ultimate version, blow out the hard drive and re-install with the store bought version. Not sure if Newegg is still running their launch specials for Win7 but they had some real good deals a week or so ago. Windows 7 rules.
Hey Free... are most existnig applications compatible with W7? As you might remember, I'm running a hodge-podge of XP and Vista Ultimates in our network. Does upgrading to W7 on all terminals make sense? Should I talk to Dan about this?
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Oh, and Free.. expect a call from me this coming week. I'm about to make your life complicated. :D
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@Tax: Grats on the new system bro! /nerd woody

@Embar: I doubt Dan has been running Windows 7 since not that many peeps have an MSDN subscription and Win7's only been out officially for about a week. What kinds of applications are you running? If it's basic office stuff then sure, it probably makes sense to upgrade. Win7 is really good with backwards compatibility but I have seen it throw fits with some older stuff that I run like Magic ISO and my old version of Adobe Acrobat 6. Overall though, if I can get my complicated environment to run then it should be cake for the average office worker. So give me some kind of list and I'll give you a feel for your upgrade, but if you've mostly been waiting since Windows XP then the time is probably at hand...

Sweet, give me a call. I'm about to be between development on a couple huge systems, and it's a lot of wanker-yanking at the beginning of systems this big, so the timing should be about perfect.
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Oh, and something about Win7 that not a lot of people know:

When you just can't get that legacy application to run, you can always run it under what they call "XP Mode", which is a free license of XP that comes with Windows 7 that lets you run Windows XP in a virtual machine.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

I'm also running Vista, Server 2008, and even other copies of Windows 7 in virtual machines too - really handy.
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