Romney's Secret Video

[Ddrak]

Mitt Romney's 47% Disproportionately Live In Republican States.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-rom ... tes-2012-9

Wow that is about a useless fucking chart.

How about we restructure that by state population and see how that falls out.

Top ten states by population (more electoral votes) 8 Blue, 2 red.
CA - Blue 37%
TX - Red 39%
FL - Blue 39%
IL - Blue 34%
PA - Blue 32%
OH - Blue 32%
MI - Blue 36%
GA - Red 41%
NC - Blue 38%
NJ - Blue 30%

You do the math. But as a percentage of the U.S. population I think the 47% actually live disproportionally in Blue states, thanks.

Well, when you look at it that way you find that more people live in states with more people. I'm not sure if that's actually any more useful.



Dd

[Partha]

Americans embarrass me, mostly when they get the idea in their head that welfare is a 50k+ a year proposition and you can get away with not working forever. Reagan's strapping young bucks and Cadillac Queens again.

What costs the tax payer 128 billion per year? SSI disability payments. Care to tell us again how you can't get away with not working forever?

Some 50 million people get payments from Social Security. Care to do a little math?

And while we're at it, why don't you tell these guys they're lying?

[Torakus]

Dd,

Exactly. So stating that teh 47% live in Red states is bullshit. Sure Idaho has a larger percentage per capita than California, but Idaho has a million people and California like 32 million. Care to carry that over to the rest of that stupid chart that Harlowe posted? The 47% don't live in Red states, it just so happens that most states have a relatively constant 30 to 40 % shit bag rate.

Partial,

Yes they are full of shit. The average pay out for SSDI is something like $1,200.00 per person. Which isn't a ton, but with a small offset, these tools are collecting workers comp as well. Some of these fuckers are actually pulling down 105% of the previous take home pay and they stay on the rolls for fucking ever. It would take an investigative force the size of TSA to stop the corruption and fraud in the current system.

Nice to see a challenged kid get off the res. Perhaps he should reflect on what Romney was saying. Sure fuck Romney. I know he didn't mean it this way, but that Indian kid that used the hand up and is not off the dole is pretty refreshing story and one I wish about 20 million more slack fucks would emulate.

[Lurker]

The 47% don't live in Red states, it just so happens that most states have a relatively constant 30 to 40 % shit bag rate.

I'm going to assume you are trolling. You certainly can't believe that the elderly, military serving in combat zones, family's taking advantage of tax deductions that were enacted with bipartisan support, or people working in low wage jobs are shit bags for no other reason than they don't currently pay federal income taxes.

[Torakus]

The 47% don't live in Red states, it just so happens that most states have a relatively constant 30 to 40 % shit bag rate.

I'm going to assume you are trolling. You certainly can't believe that the elderly, military serving in combat zones, family's taking advantage of tax deductions that were enacted with bipartisan support, or people working in low wage jobs are shit bags for no other reason than they don't currently pay federal income taxes.

Military in combat zones are only tax free during their tour, they pay taxes at all other times and comprise an insignificant percentage of that 47%. I don't have a problem with the elderly. They are actually 20% of our population and more than half of them are paying taxes. 28% pay payroll tax. So fucking what, that is a self licking ice cream cone. They are getting back more in entitlements than they are putting into payroll tax, so that is a bullshit number as well.

Yes they are shit bags. 35ish % of those fuckers anyway. Poor people suck.

[Ddrak]

Dd,

Exactly. So stating that teh 47% live in Red states is bullshit. Sure Idaho has a larger percentage per capita than California, but Idaho has a million people and California like 32 million. Care to carry that over to the rest of that stupid chart that Harlowe posted? The 47% don't live in Red states, it just so happens that most states have a relatively constant 30 to 40 % shit bag rate.

Yep - that was not correct. I believe the statement the linked map is attempting to show is "Red states have more than their fair share of the 47%".

Dd

[Lurker]

The map, or at least the articles promoting the map, were misleading.

I don't have a problem with the elderly. They are actually 20% of our population and more than half of them are paying taxes.

So you'll stop using the 47% number when complaining about freeloaders then?

28% pay payroll tax. So fucking what, that is a self licking ice cream cone. They are getting back more in entitlements than they are putting into payroll tax, so that is a bullshit number as well.

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Which deductions do you want to eliminate?

Yes they are shit bags. 35ish % of those fuckers anyway. Poor people suck.

Just to be clear, are you in favor of taxing incomes that are barely at substinance levels, or are you just saying that you don't like poor people?

[Harlowe]

I think the "poor people suck" part of his artful response probably answers that question.

[Torakus]

I think the "poor people suck" part of his artful response probably answers that question.

Wrong.

I would eliminate the nearly 30% of those deductions that cause people with over 50K in earnings to somehow achieve zero or negative liability and I would adjust the deductions in the 30% that create excessive negative liability and close up the loop holes in the elderly tax benefits that allow pensioners with comfortable incomes to achieve zero tax liability.

I am an asshole but I am not heartless.