Enshadowed and Zarake, nice guild management

Darck Aberration · Post by **Darck Aberration** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:25 pm

So lemme get this right, Saphdia wants to rant about stuff that happens in the game but makes a point not to talk in game about stuff that she is ranting about... Doesn't make much sense. Then again not much she says is coherant.

Faol · Post by **Faol** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:28 pm

Two different games Darck. Don't confuse them.

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:48 pm

I don't talk to ppl in game about rants. Period.

OK. You don't, but I do. If I group with someone who was mentioned on the rant board, say, in a pickup group, I might ask them if they've seen the thread and hear their side of things. This is an Everquest board, why is it wrong to discuss something brought up here ingame? Talking about rant board issues ingame is not a crime, yet you pretend like it's immoral.

Speaking of a lack of morals, you HURT many people Saphdia during the Tarzzan situation. Let me try to get this through to you:

Let us assume one of your favorite guildmembers dies. You don't know this person outside of EQ, but you really, really appreciate their company and are very saddened by this news. As you are grieving and upset, someone comes to the boards and smears their name in their death thread!! How would this make you feel?

This has nothing to do with the validity of the death. The only thing I speak of is the FACT that you have shown no respect for the grief of others. I don't care what occurs on a messageboard or ingame, insulting the memory of someone strikes me as extremely disrespectful.

I asked you to leave me out of it....and you refused and kept up your harassment pushing your view of things when I asked you to stop twice.

Um ... no. Now you are lying, Saphdia. You're full of shit here, and unless you post a chat log here, I don't recall you EVER once asking me to stop, nevertheless twice per your mention?! Where did you pull this from?

"m still wondering what the purpose..

I'm still wondering what friends Subtle has in Enshadowed. Or perhaps the both of you are liars?

[/quote]He likes to play more the cat and mouse game with them.

No, I disagree. I think Subtle is, overall, a decent enough guy who has far better communication skills than you. I don't think he was playing "Cat and Mouse," he was simply communicating to the best of his ability regarding the situation. You would be wise to have him approve your posts Saphdia, 'cause you're sure making yourself, your guild, and your husband look really bad right now.

Regardless, if you want to continue this bullshit, please start a new thread. I'm done replying to you here, this entire thread is rediculous.

Loon

Faol · Post by **Faol** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:57 pm

Just out of curiosity...

This has nothing to do with the validity of the death. The only thing I speak of is the FACT that you have shown no respect for the grief of others. I don't care what occurs on a messageboard or ingame, insulting the memory of someone strikes me as extremely disrespectful.

Were you this upset when you found out this was a staged death? I think pretending to be dead to friend and enemy alike is pretty fucking disrespectful.

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:11 pm

Regardless of the Tarzzan's death being faked or real, the bottom line here is how Saphdia acted towards grieving people. Of course, yes, anyone who would fake their death in Everquest has serious issues and that's an atrocious act.

The thing that is emphasized is twofold here:

1. The way Saphdia chose to express herself when people were grieving. She jeered, laughed, and insulted everyone, despite their emotional pain.

2. She continues to mention this issue. As if there's some sort of triumph or personal victory here. Saphdia has proven nothing throughout this entire thread... Well, except for maybe one thing: She has proven time and time again that she has no class.

For shame, Saphdia.

Loon

Faol · Post by **Faol** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:24 pm

Saphdia isn't my concern. She's yours.

I simply wondered if you were this outraged over something actually worth your time. The faked death of a "dear friend".

Thanks for the non-commital response.

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 12:49 am

Faol -

I'll elucidate, though I didn't feel the need answer a question unrelated to this thread, posed purely for your curiosity.

Faol said:

Just out of curiosity...

I did state that "anyone who would fake their death in Everquest has serious issues and that's an atrocious act." What exactly are you trying to hear from me?

You've made the assumption that I "found out" that Tarzzan faked his death. Until Tarzzan returns to EQ and/or posts again, or someone whom I know and trust confirms that he still lives, I can only speculate. Yes, if I truly found out that Tarzzan did indeed lie about his death, I would find that to be pretty pathetic and would not trust him again.

I feel that this Tarzzan issue should be even further buried than this useless thread. *shrug* Ironically, a faked death is probably perfect for the soap-opera drama bullshit of the rant boards, though so is the act of sneering at grieving people.

Does this answer your question and satisfy your curiosity Faol?

Loon

Faol · Post by **Faol** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:46 am

The invalid-session monster seems to have latched on to me. I've answered this twice now. I'll try to be smarter about it this time and save it before I hit submit.

Ok for the third time....

I wasn't looking for a particular answer from you. I was looking for real insight into your side of the issue regarding Leezh. Your dislike of Saphdia, what she says or what she does, isn't my concern nor was it my reason for posting. Whatever you think about her should be addressed to her and not me.

I have no doubt Leezh is alive and well. I also have no doubt that he regularly speaks with people who play EQ and read these boards and I don't think a Ouija board is needed. My perceptions are based on my experiences with him in EQ and in the confines of a family based guild. He was funny and helpful. He also had a flare for the dramatic and chose to lie instead of using some adult honesty when certain issues came up. I don't fault him too harshly for that but I did think he was extremely immature.

You don't say what you really believe regarding him and that's fine. It doesn't change the fact that if he had died you'd have lost a friend. He didn't. He's lied to you and many others. So regardless you did lose but you didn't lose a friend...you never really had one in him.

shlim · Post by **shlim** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:20 am

I will answer that for you foal...
I for one am very dissapointed and sad that tarz faked his death.. it shows a lack of respect for people, that i am sure he displays in rl. He has to live with himself on that.
I am quite sure if i every ran into him i would bitch slap him around the room for it.

Butt ... that still does not mean someone like that fat bloated maggot eatting whore cunt sapfuck should take it upon herself to fuck with people who are grieving over someone they cared about. she isnt dick fucking tracy and didnt need to stick her fat cunt ass in it.

Luciannnah · Post by **Luciannnah** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:39 am

I'm really only posting in the attempt to page 8 this one *mwhahaha*. . .otherwise my eyes are bleeding too much from the first 7 to make any intelligent comments on any of it.

Luciannah Dracosolum
58th High Elf Enchantress
Proud Member of Exemplar

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:30 pm

He was far, far more polite and rational than you. I don't think you were in any shape to recall details of those conversations, based on the content of the inane dribble that spills from your fingers. hahah

Actually the only reason I seemed rational to you.. was to set you straight from repeating those lies you were telling me, some one needed to set you straight. Saph knows exactly what we talked about.. she was here the whole time. You sent her a rude tell, and then went to me when you didnt like her response.. /boggle. I did find it odd at the time a enshadowed recruit would be telling me about their other high level alts in other guilds.. That showed me the dedication you had as a recruit and I got a good laugh out of it.

Subtle

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:32 pm

Regardless of the Tarzzan's death being faked or real,

Tarzzan transfered to another server with some of his friends in Omni.

Just as an FYI

Subtle

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:45 pm

wasn't looking for a particular answer from you. I was looking for real insight into your side of the issue regarding Leezh. Your dislike of Saphdia, what she says or what she does, isn't my concern nor was it my reason for posting. Whatever you think about her should be addressed to her and not me.

oh and one more point since I actually read the rest heh..

Saph didnt do anything except answer someone else who brought Tarzaan's death here to attack her.. (which was worse IMO) and say Araden shouldnt need to be sorry for how he felt.. but should be for what was posted the brell board.

The rest is people like loon and shlim that turned it into something else just because they hate Saph. Well sorry, you can hate her till your blue in the face.. she still didnt do half the things you say.. hell she isnt even the one who brought it to rants.

You guys coiuldnt deal with someone saying they were not sorry for thinking he was a complete scumbag, just because he was *supposedly* dead... Sorry you had to find out who was right and he was really a complete scumbag. I dont think anyone would argue that now heh. Some people look for anything to attack people over.. and trust me.. Leezh isnt worth fighting over. Right or wrong.. he was always scum. He is smiling somewhere knowing that he caused all this crap to get tossed around.

I kept most of my comments about Leezh to myself back then.. but I was and am so happy he is gone from Brell.. one less asshat around. During that time, my running joke was even in death he is harassing us lol.

Subtle

saphdia · Post by **saphdia** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:47 pm

loonie bin

You don't, but I do.

And most ppl think it's lameo...to take shit from rants into game. And yes, youare lame and I have better things to do than spend time with a lame person taht wants to say I"m a bad person and has no clue how I am. So yes, you got an attitude and /ignore. Poor baby..stop crying.

yet you pretend like it's immoral

There is no reason why your skanky ass can't post your opinoin here..as mine was posted. I don't want to be bothered in game with your trivial shit. That is my right. *gasp* you control freak.

Speaking of a lack of morals, you HURT many people Saphdia during the Tarzzan situation.

No, let me try to get this to YOU bitch.

http://www.brellrants.net/forum/viewtop ... &start=550

Is where it started by harlowe who used it to go after me about an opinoin I had on something totally unrelated. Harlowe, lamely, used araden, a guildmate of mine, as an example. People were going on and on about how could araden even think that...well first of all..he apologized..and second of all, I merely explained if you look at my first post (but we know you just wanna be the bitch anyway and dont' relaly care how it actually got started). If your pain relies on how I feel about someone /laugh you are one pathetic stupid bitch. You have twisted my first post beyond it's original meaning so pretty much you can piss off. Nothing was every said about shlims "death threats"..oh yah i guess that is justified /snicker. Don't tell me who to show respect to. You are not in my shoes..you controlling bitch. You seroiusly have some control issues if you put so much controlling things in your post.

Um ... no. Now you are lying, Saphdia. You're full of shit here, and unless you post a chat log here, I don't recall you EVER once asking me to stop, nevertheless twice per your mention?! Where did you pull this from?

Newp...you were asked to leave me alone twice. I told you that I don't talk about rants in game and with your wording..I knew you were not out to do any good..and you kept going. so told ya to piss off or something like that..then I /ignore.

I'm still wondering what friends Subtle has in Enshadowed. Or perhaps the both of you are liars?

And Im' wondering why this is of consequence to you? It is really quite egotistical to think that an entire guild would think the way you do and *hate* subtle or myself. Seriously...think about it. Why would you want us to name our friends in enshadowed? What purpose would that be? You really have some issues, loonie...i guess i see the coorelation now with your name and your personality hehe.

No, I disagree. I think Subtle is, overall, a decent enough guy who has far better communication skills than you. I don't think he was playing "Cat and Mouse," he was simply communicating to the best of his ability regarding the situation. You would be wise to have him approve your posts Saphdia, 'cause you're sure making yourself, your guild, and your husband look really bad right now.

You don't know subtle from adam. You have no clue how he takes someone. I think it's amusing how you are trying to tell me..lol someone who lives with him and has known him for years..over you..who do not know him..."know" how he took your conversation. You are not even in the same room with him while we laughed at your skanky ass thinking you were actually talking to someone who gave a fuck what you thought lol.

the bottom line here is how Saphdia acted towards grieving people

Hmm..well my first post just explained stuff and stuck up for araden being a good guy..and he DID apologize

. so this is just a twisted view of it all cause you want to see it that way. I think it's rather bs for anyone to direct anyone on how they should feel against someone who has wronged them. You are not in my shoes..so you can frankly piss off. So if that is your bottom line....where was it hehe when ppl were making death threats eh? Isn't that pretty serious? Isn't that wrong to do something like that back? Why is it brought up? Probably same reason you guys needle me whenever you can. It's amusing to me that enshadowed folks can't own up to the fact they got taken...and are STILL to this day slapping out at ppl who were right all along instead of being mad at the person who played them for fools. Right now, Leezh is having fun as tarzzan (sp?) on the server omni went to. No suprise hehe. Oh, wait, maybe it is his wife playing him.

Regardless, if you want to continue this bullshit, please start a new thread. I'm done replying to you here, this entire thread is rediculous.

You came to attack me here..why are you telling me what to do? Control issue yet again /laugh. Ahh that is ok.your responses are not perceived as "bullshit" to yourself.so it's ok if you can respond here and attack but oh no..if saph does lol.

Nanilae Mezenrez · Post by **Nanilae Mezenrez** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:08 pm

This gets funnier and funnier. On my soap operas, people fake their deaths all the time. Now, it's usually because they're hiding from the mob or the "real" murderer of the crime they're accused of, so they're forgiven, but nobody EVER comes back later and says "OMG remember how you FREAKED when you thought your mom was dead?". It's just tasteless.

As far as not taking rants into game, of course not! It's a one way street. Sit quietly in game, observe and come here and spew. If it went the other way, you'd be so alone in this game it'd be like Diablo on a lan line for the two of you.

I really don't believe the "friends" bit. Anyone who believes you can have two different personalities in two different venues is blind. I believe you kiss ass in game, suck the shit out and spew it here. You can't have two opinions, just two faces.

Darck Aberration · Post by **Darck Aberration** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:18 pm

Dunno about others, but stuff said in rant boards directly correlates to the game imo. If someone is an ass on the boards they must be an ass in the game also. Many in Enshadowed hate Saphdia and Subtle IN GAME and here on the rants... Some of these rants could be derailed if people would send tells to eachother rather than being attention whores.

This thread had absolutely nothing to do with Sphere of Honor, yet there is a bunch of spew from them...

ZanypherCocoapuffs · Post by **ZanypherCocoapuffs** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:51 pm

Dunno about others, but stuff said in rant boards directly correlates to the game imo. If someone is an ass on the boards they must be an ass in the game also. Many in Enshadowed hate Saphdia and Subtle IN GAME and here on the rants...

A) Taking shit from the game here is ok. B) Taking shit from here to the game is lame.

Example of A: Barkona, Morsereg, Babiana = Asshats in game who are ranted about here, the reputation flounders here, and they get shit in game for it. Deserved.

Example of B: Axheran, Valoria, etc = people who aren't popular on the rants boards but generally dont get shit in game (unless they start it first) about stuff on the rants boards. Axheran may be a pile of naive teenager here, but he plays (played) the game well. I dont know about Valoria, but I wouldn't equate what she says/does here to how well she plays a cleric in game.

So there you have it. As long as it starts in game and ends up here, its all good. If it starts here and ends up in game, then you suck.

Dorf Medic · Post by **Dorf Medic** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:42 am

As weird as it sounds Saph and Pharma and me dont get along on the boards at all. However I have met Saph only once in game in Guk trying to help a friend of hers get an Evil eye bag. It was a pleasant encounter.

As for Pharma, his monk raised a few eyebrows in CT a while back but also nothing like he is on the boards.

I can only explain it away by conscious split personalities. However, they seem nice enough in game while being rather not so nice on the boards.

I generally give them a wide berth.

Saevrok · Post by **Saevrok** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:15 pm

Heh, only time I bothered to try to engage saphdia in conversation I found her to be almost exactly the same as she is here, petty, vindictive, and acted like she mattered. I believe her exact words were "You had better give me a wide berth". I imagine she was sexualy assaulted as a child and has trouble with interpersonal relationships. Either that or she wakes up every morning and realizes how pathetic her life is so she feels the urge to attempt to disrupt the lives of others.

As for pharma, never dealt with him. But we know who is wearing the skirt in that house. My advice to him is, rim jobs are good foreplay, but your fucking ass fell in and hasnt come back out, place your hands on her buttocks and pull your head out of her ass. I swear, I am a good boyfriend, I go shopping with her. I go to the annoying girly movies and buy her dinners. But when she is an utter bitch I let her know it. Grab ahold of that shriveled ballsack of yours and think on your own.

Now, you two come on and bring your five page replies. You do your best and I will do my worst, but I will still be on top pounding both of you in the ass. I have an edge, you let this crap effect you. Dont try and lie and say it doesnt. I can tell by the savagery of your attacks that you are very effected by this board. Thats where I have an advantage, almost everyone on this board could die in an atomic fire and I wouldnt break a stride in chewing my cheerios.

Burz · Post by **Burz** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:54 am

A) Taking shit from the game here is ok. B) Taking shit from here to the game is lame.

I'll take double standards for 100, Alex.