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Kulaf wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:17 pm Good thing they are all practicing social distancing:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1269399975978504192
Yeah, I'd be expecting a spike any time now. Had rallies over here too that look like they may have spread it some.

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Is China attacking your net infrastructure over there Dd? Hearing reports of sustained cyber attacks.
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Kulaf wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:02 pm Is China attacking your net infrastructure over there Dd? Hearing reports of sustained cyber attacks.
Probably. Happens in waves. Government isn't specifically naming China, except when off the record. There's a bit of an anti-China thing going on too, so making noise about it suits various factions in politics as well. I don't pay a ton of attention to who is cyberattacking who much because I fear the silent ones that don't get reported much more.

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So we got a spike, but not from the rallies. Turns out the Victorian government hired cheap security guards for our quarantine hotels, who promptly decided to ignore all the rules and freely associated with the people under quarantine. Coupled with some bad luck in other ways and now getting 200 new cases a day, and Melbourne is back under full lockdown with the whole state's border closed from the rest of the country. Looks to be heading under control again, but not a great outcome.

Thankfully no outbreak up in Queensland where I am, with a total of 4 active cases known at the moment.

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We got waves from the protests, but of course the media is spinning it as anything but.
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Hi, I had the 'rona back in Feb before they really started testing for it (I tested later and have the antibodies) since I interact with upwards of a thousand people a day in my job :lol:

It was like a weird flu that took about 5 days to get over, but I still have a lingering cough.
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Trust Burz to be patient zero... ;)
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Yeah, we had the first big surge in the country then the governor shut every thing down and murdered most small businesses, especially restaurants (and the bar I used to frequent) that didn't have takeout options in place.
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I'm not sure what to think about lockdowns. They've worked over here - the country is basically COVID-free and businesses are now free to operate mostly as normal. However, there was a lot of continuous government support in the background to prop things up somewhat while the lockdowns were happening.

The conservative parties are getting absolutely hammered at the ballot box over here when they've suggested opening up over an elimination strategy, despite the Murdoch press pushing the idea pretty heavily.
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I’m an essential worker and I’m prolly gonna get the rona
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Nah, you are going to be a vaccine test subject. I can just see them vaccinating first responders and front line medical and some horror movie twist where you all turn into creatures from "I am Legend".
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Looks like the lab leak theory was correct after all.
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The original resistance to the theory was spearheaded by some big-name doctors who have now been outed as having made the decision to fund the "gain of function" research through the NIH and other sources. This includes Fauci.

Rand Paul discussed it on the Senate floor with Fauci:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rrect.html

Fauci tried to weasel word his way out of it by redefining gain of function research, but that is exactly what they funded.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/22/the-wuhan ... then-ever/
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html
The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year - but were ignored by academics and major journals.
This is what happens when in the name of "science" and "stopping disinformation" that actual science is stopped. Science is all about forming a hypothesis and then publishing your findings, but that process was completely halted by the MSM and high-level doctors that had a vested interest in this information never seeing the light of day.
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Seems awfully cherry picked to me. Whenever I see stuff that suggests the "MSM" (which somehow never includes Fox, despite it being more popular than any of the others, go figure) acts in lockstep on predetermined agendas, I have to roll my eyes pretty hard.

This all seems to hang off some intelligence report that they aren't actually releasing, and we just have to trust that their "circumstantial evidence" weighs up against a ton of scientific evidence that points to it not being engineered and instead being a random leap from bats to humans, possibly with other mammal involvement (which happens all the time).

Taking the pre-pub paper that doesn't seem to have passed peer review (could be wrong, but couldn't see a review), well, it's not very credible that two scientists who are middling-experts in their field would be right against significant numbers of experts across the world who have concluded otherwise. Scientists don't get together to suppress differing views when they are credible - that's not how science works - differing views are celebrated as the groundwork for new science.

In general, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. This is not yet evident. Not saying it's wrong, just it's still well on the side of cherry picked conspiracy than validated.

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Source on that "ton of scientific evidence"?
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China fully endorses probe into lab leak theory:

https://youtu.be/9I7QnX-tz3o
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