The "REAL" SunshuZFM is back

SunshuZFM · Post by **SunshuZFM** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:00 pm

Exactly where and when did I admit that? I wouldn't because it never happened.

Actually now that I think about it Shosh never actually publically posted in this forum directly that I beat her or hit her at least that I recall. Why is that? She only posted sly innuendos and such, inferring that everyone knew why she left me and why she treated me the way she did, but she let "YOU" be the one to publicly announce it thereaby laying the groundwork for her without posing any legal risk to herself. Perhaps because it would have been a whole lot easier for me to take legal action against her since I knew who she was and she lived locally as opposed a basically anonimous person who lives several states away. After all if I tried to take action against "her" claims all she would have to do is deny having ever said anything directly detrimental and she can't be responsible for whatever other people "read" into her statements.

Sunshu

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:56 pm

Exactly where? In game, when I refused to group with you, saying I didn't group with wifebeaters. You were very verbose then, explaining how after cheating on you with a guildie and treating you like crap she finally made you angry enough to hit her and I'd have done the same. One of your guildies backed you up, saying how much of a bitch Shosh was.

Look, Sunshuu. If you want to be stupid enough to keep pressing this issue, then by all means. You might sway some people - after all, Shosh is pretty unpopular, and even lost my sympathy and friendship despite my tendency towards blind loyalty of my friends, but I took a credibility hit myself believing her, so you might be believed over me. Some people might even think it was OK to hit her - after all, she did cuckold you pretty good and probably made you feel like an ass, hurt and betrayed... maybe a lot of people in your position would have lashed out with their fists. Hell, I don't know how I would have responded. I felt pretty stupid myself when I realized I'd been had by her, and I wasn't even sleeping with her.

And yes, I heard it from her first, the day it happened in fact, but you were kind enough to confirm it for me when confronted and no amount of denial now is going to change that. If she were my only source you're right, I shouldn't trust it... but lucky me, she isn't.

But just to show you I'm not such a bad guy, Sunshuu... let me give you a link that might help you understand, give you some perspective on what may be at the core of your problems with your ex...

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Sectio ... entID=7671

Ya see, bud... I make it policy to never discuss my personal life on these forums... but I'm gonna break that rule. It's going to bite me in the ass, but I can deal.

Many many years ago, I had a relationship with someone who really wasn't unlike Shosh. See if you identify with this. When our relationship began, she made me feel like a god. I was THE best man for her, SO much better than what she had in the past... an amazingly great lover who worked it with her like I'd never worked it before... I could do no wrong. It was awesome.

Then it went south very quickly. She got horrible tempers, every mistake I made was a mortal sin, and though the sex remained awesome, that was all that was left. One day she packed up and left while I wasn't looking, though i had a few days of her not hiding very well that she made plans to leave. Any of this strike a chord?

Didn't hear from her for a very long time. Did later on, and being the somewhat famously blindly loyal person I am, I forgave her and remained her friend. She repeated this patten with two more boyfriends between the time I reacquainted myself with her and the time she finally found out what was wrong with her -- see the link above. This one had a happy ending... though she had a couple stumbles after that point, she's finally recovering and living a healthier life, and we remain good friends to this day.

But it helped me understand a lot about what happened between us... maybe reading that will help you understand a bit too. I'm not saying Shosh is suffering from the same problem -- I'd get eaten alive for armchair psychology if I did - but it may help give you perspective.

Then I suggest you leave here in peace.

SunshuZFM · Post by **SunshuZFM** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:17 am

Eloquently spoken but I'm not biting. I still stand by my earlier statement. I never admitted to hitting her cause it never happened. Nor do I remember anyone ever refusing to group with me alleging I was a wifebeater. Nor do I recall anything that was being posted on the boards having ever affected me in game at all. I was pretty much a dedicated soloist unless I was raiding with WoW or OoE. So I'm pretty sure I would remember it. There was a few times I was in small groups but it was only with guildies.

This being said I'm puzzled by the complete attitude reversal. Suddenly your filled with understanding and compassion when earlier you attacked me with all the the kindness of a rabid wolverine over the subject.

Still I suppose I should take the offered olive branch, I'm getting weary of trying to prove that I didn't hit her just as your undoubtedly getting tired of trying to prove I did. Something that I believe Harlowe pointed out could never be proved one way or the other. I do hope though that I never have to have that term thrown in my face again by you or anyone else here as an attempt to discredit me or otherwise cause me pain. I believe I have suffered enough because of Shosh both in RL and here. And perhaps I believe you also Relbeek have suffered along with any others who have been used by Shosh wittingly or unwittingly.

So I take my leave in peace. Perhaps I'll take Ari's advice and search for that hobby and let the past die. Safe journeys<bow>

Sunshu

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:21 am

Just a thought, but did Shosh have access to his character? She goes pretty far to lie and decieve others. How do you know Shosh wasn't on his character helping build her story?

It would be apropos.

Grygonos Thunderwulf · Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:32 am

point of order: cunt is a seasonal meat.. it is in fact red and white

Surlley · Post by **Surlley** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:50 am

i like mine rare. The pinker the better

gineeva · Post by **gineeva** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:12 am

Rare cunt..the pinker the better eh?

Those damn Red Bull commercials kept popping into my head as I read that.

"It'll give you wings"

redwings

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:49 am

Harlowe: According to Sunshuu, no.

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:10 am

Well, she got into his account here and he didn't think she knew his info either.

Just seems the most likely scenario to me considering her MO.

Blooh Sugah · Post by **Blooh Sugah** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:10 am

Would red wine or white wine be the appropriate drink with cunt?

Ariannda Kusanagi · Post by **Ariannda Kusanagi** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:18 am

Red i believe

Grygonos Thunderwulf · Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:22 am

ladies, ladies.. must I remind you that if a meat is also seasonal then it's wine choices follow suit...when in white season... a white wine would be apropos, and likewise with red

Blooh Sugah · Post by **Blooh Sugah** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:31 am

I figured it depended on the lunar cycle.

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:02 pm

Just seems the most likely scenario to me considering her MO.

I suppose that's a possibility, but I kinda doubt it. She engineered being with his guild in the same zone as me just so she could give me that line? And if so, why make a strong argument that the abuse deserved to happen? Why not restrict herself to "The bitch deserved it, she was cheating on me with my own guildmate," to make Sunshuu look worse?

She just doesn't seem clever enough to be that subtle.

Akhbarali · Post by **Akhbarali** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:18 pm

Harlowe wrote:Well, she got into his account here and he didn't think she knew his info either.

Just seems the most likely scenario to me considering her MO.

Five dollars says he has (or had) the same password for his EQ and Rant Board accounts.

I always found it odd that Sunshu allegedly "admitted" hitting his wife to a stranger on the Internet. It seems pretty obvious to me who was talking to Relbeek that day.
Given everything that has happened, Sunshu strikes me as the most credible party posting on this subject. That is not a slam on Relbeek's character but he was so badly taken by Sosh that it seems likely that she was manipulating him on this as well. As we have seen here already, she is not overly concerned with damaging Relbeek's image/credibility as long as she can exact some revenge against her ex or other "Internet enemies".

Akhbar

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:25 pm

Beeker, it wouldn't take any degree of intelligence to pull it off.

Look at how many raging morons rip off others pulling scams. This level of deception wouldn't have required a Rhodes Scholar, just a head-case with a lack of character.

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:14 pm

Perhaps.

I guess the truth will never really be known.

Akhbarali · Post by **Akhbarali** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:29 pm

Relbeek Einre wrote:Exactly where? In game, when I refused to group with you, saying I didn't group with wifebeaters. You were very verbose then, explaining how after cheating on you with a guildie and treating you like crap she finally made you angry enough to hit her and I'd have done the same.

Just curious, before that day how frequently was Sunshu contacting you about joining groups? Weekly? Monthly? How about first time ever? I also wonder how long it was after Sosh "confided" in you about the "abuse"? It just seems kind of odd that "Sunshu" sent you the tell in game lfg then admitted abusing Shosh soon after Shosh made the orginal allegation to you. Given how blatently she has manipulated you in the past its sure seems likely that it was her, and not Shunshu, making a statement that theoretically could have cost him dearly in real life.

Akhbar

Post by **Relbeek Einre** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:31 pm

Sunshuu didn't contact me, one of his groupmates did.

Akhbarali · Post by **Akhbarali** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:32 pm

Relbeek Einre wrote:Perhaps.

I guess the truth will never really be known.

Who knows, maybe they will get Shosh's meds balanced at some point in the future and she can come set the record straight. Would be damned amusing if nothing else.

Akhbar