Enshadowed

[Turaylon Soulshadow]

Someone remade Enshadowed on the Project 1999 server. That is all.

[Freecare Spiritwise]

My son is a guild leader of a small guild on the server (Something lumen? Sanctum lumen or something?) and he was telling me about some of the drama. Holy cow. He said about 1/4 of the server was banned. None of it seemed to be hard to see coming though /shrug.

Seems like the guy that runs the server:

1.) Likes having donations.
2.) Likes to give his friends any advantage he can give them.
3.) Likes to ban anyone that makes him looks like the asshole that he is.

Oh wait, that sounds like SOE.

[Ddrak]

Seems like a pretty decent EQ emulation!

Dd

[Taxious]

Seems like a pretty decent EQ emulation!

Haha /highfive

[Turaylon Soulshadow]

Ya know, I'm super curious...if the threads in Hall of Flame were unlocked and there were new posts made on them, how many old members that are long gone would get email notifications that a new post was made in the thread and be tempted to come back?

[Ddrak]

Given the number of people that have to mail me to get their accounts back because their email changed 25 times since they last posted?

Dd

[Harlowe]

Are you sure about that Free, what do you mean he likes donations and helping his friends, is there some proof of that or is that sour grapes from people that have gotten in trouble for cheating? There is a Paypal donate button on the site, they've always taken donations for the bandwidth and running the site, but it's not required.

From what I hear the people were banned for cheating and most people I know that are playing are happy to see them do something about it, but are kind of pissed they didn't just perma-ban these people. It's pretty lenient actually, they aren't perma-banned. Just lose some levels and their plat.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showt ... hp?t=46654

Two weeks ago, we implemented a new detection for people using illegal third party programs to gain an advantage over the game and other players. After two weeks, saying the results are disappointing would be an understatement. Never before have I been so ashamed at the number of people blatantly disregarding rules they are well aware were being violated. We take our rules against using these programs very seriously, and we have banned many accounts over the life of this server.. enough to think it would have sent a message to everyone that we do not tolerate this behavior. Apparently, people think they can find ways around previous detection methods and feel comfortable that we will not find out. We are not Sony, we do not sit back and simply say oh well we can't prove they aren't using it. We will always be coming up with new ways to discover those using these programs, and not one person is safe to assume they will get away with it. If you play on Project 1999 (including upcoming PvP), you will abide by these rules or not play at all.

365 accounts are being suspended... that's only over the course of two weeks.

Typically this type of violation results in a permanent ban. While we are furious that this many people chose to think we aren't serious about our rules, we also aren't willing to simply throw away that many accounts. This is a one time leniency to the punishment of this offense. In addition to being suspended, however, the following will also be imposed on every character on those accounts:
The character's total experience will be reduced by a percentage equal to their level. Meaning a level 60 will lose 60% of their total experience worth. (This would result in a de-level to level 54 and 1/4.)
The character will be stripped of all coin.

As usual these players can post in the petition forum with their questions, but the discipline decision is final (we are already showing leniency). All future violations will continue to be permanent bans. Please remember to post your account name when making a petition forum post.

We discussed these decisions in length between the senior staff of the server, and much harsher options were considered, including actions taken against guilds that had many of these accounts in them (even to the point of being disbanded). We have decided not to take action against the guilds, even also taking into account that several of the raid guilds (you know who you are) are causing a headache for the staff right now by acting like complete children. That stops now. Talk to each other, come to an understanding, and work together. We do not care about who got away with what in the past due to a have a lack of evidence to do something. All guilds get a clean slate, and the penalties for training, kiting raid mobs, and other rule violations are about to get a whole lot stricter. Do not be the first guild that we use to send a message. This is the only warning.
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[Harlowe]

Free, looks like the issue was more about people not punished severly enough (maybe that's where you were going with that), due to high level/guild/friends being part of the cheating parties caught. At least that is what is going around and Uthgaard quit (the father/ban-hammer of the server).

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showt ... hp?t=47318

Man this sure is dramuuuuu.

The whole experience/plat loss thing isn't going to be a speed bump to those people though, so not sure what they think it will accomplish, other than be more of a deterrant. Cheaters suck ass.

[Freecare Spiritwise]

From talking to my son I think he knew a few innocent people caught up in it, but I shouldn't have said anything. This is his thing, not mine, and I was out of place even mentioning it. Sorry about that, Harlowe.

[Harlowe]

Bah, no you weren't, you were just relaying what you heard. Something shitty had to go down behind the scenes for Uthgaard to leave in disgust like that.

[Turaylon Soulshadow]

P99 staff likes to play favorites. Inglourious Basterds (now Transatlantic Rampage) get away with just about anything. Rogean had a supposed firm 'no tolerance, first strike you're out' policy on MQ2/SEQ use...then after this people got a 2 week suspension (that lasted about 48 hours). The guild leader of TR is a developer that really just 'tests' raid/faction mobs he and his guild are concerned with and makes guides on how to kill them (not speculating here, I was in the guild for a bit until quitting). The recent BS with him collecting date from Veeshan's Peak to use on their own raid test server should have gotten him banned and kicked off the dev team.

Remember, 365 banned accounts could mean only 100 people. Everyone makes separate accounts for their characters (at least most people I know did). My magician, necro, SK, druid, shaman, and bard were all on separate accounts, and even though I never boxed on P99, I was able to let friends use them, or if my druid needed to be logged on to track a boss. The server admins are pretty corrupt, especially former GM Cyrius (plays Uaellaen- recently 'banned' for 2 boxing, and did a ton of other shady shit) and Uthgaard was the only fair person around. If there wasn't a definite right side to a situation with him, everyone loses. He may have been an asshole, but he didn't play favorites.

[Harlowe]

That's what I liked about Uthgaard. He could be an ass and a bit of a hothead, but he was all about the rules and enforcing them the same across the board. That pissed off a lot of self-important assholes on the server, but the guy had zero favoritism.

It's a shame really. Was a cool concept, I'm sure we'll still play our lowbies, but not aspiring to anything high level on that server. It's far to corrupt to make raiding worthwhile. Not worth the drama and the assholes that train the camps in the entire zone to get to their named.

[UltraBurz]

Pretty awesome guild name.

Also:

makes guides on how to kill them

Guides on mobs 11 years old? This nigga!

[Turaylon Soulshadow]

Pretty awesome guild name.

Also:

makes guides on how to kill them

Guides on mobs 11 years old? This nigga!

HE LIVES!!! The Man will never keep Burz down.

And yea, the people playing over there are REALLY bad. I got my Magician into the top guild back when I was still playing and the people were just...awful. A couple of them knew their shit, but the majority were just bad, and this was during the 'classic' phase of the server, so it's REALLY hard to not be at least somewhat decent at a (then) 11 year old game. I think one boss fight I did wasn't a total zergfest (22 people on Innoruuk). Ended up having to spend close to 20 hours in PoFear one night because people are idiots and don't know how to kite, then another 12 on a different night sitting in SolB waiting for Naggy to pop.

Spawns are set up to have a variance on their spawn time. Naggy spawns every 7 days +/- 2 days, same with vox, ct, etc, and the guild leaders there are way too immature to do a rotation system, so it ends up being over 100 people in SolB for hours at a time waiting for a boss to spawn.

[UltraBurz]

Haha. Oh, wow! That's terribad territory. They tweak anything? 22 for original Inny sounds low, or maybe I am just remembering all the 40+ person raids that came later.

Anyways, I am happy with Rift - even if ChloroLocks are OP as fuck in PvP.

[Ddrak]

Ended up having to spend close to 20 hours in PoFear one night

Don't you have to be in Norway or something to have a 20 hour night?

Dd

[calleagh]

Ended up having to spend close to 20 hours in PoFear one night

Don't you have to be in Norway or something to have a 20 hour night?

Dd

lol dd. that would be antarctica. during winter.

[Harlowe]

I think Norway has some pretty long nights during the Winter Solstice, but I'm too lazy to Google it.

[Freecare Spiritwise]

Going from Southern California to Northern Washington has been interesting with sunrises and sunsets. From almost as far south as you could get without being in Mexico to about as far north as you can get without being in Canada. In the winter here it's dark by 4 PM and in the summer it's 90 degrees with the sun shining full force at 9 PM. It's also weird seeing the different weather widgets on my Windows 7 sidebar with one dark and one light!

You learn about this stuff in school but knowing it and experiencing it are two different things. And it makes the seasons more meaningful. If you miss the changing colors it's impossible to miss the changes in sunrise and sunset.

Oh, and the architecture here reflects that fact that we're so far north.

[Turaylon Soulshadow]

Ended up having to spend close to 20 hours in PoFear one night

Don't you have to be in Norway or something to have a 20 hour night?

Dd

We started when it was dark out. Until I fall asleep, it still counts as night! Plus no natural light can get into my room when I have the AC installed.

Haha. Oh, wow! That's terribad territory. They tweak anything? 22 for original Inny sounds low, or maybe I am just remembering all the 40+ person raids that came later.

Anyways, I am happy with Rift - even if ChloroLocks are OP as fuck in PvP.

There's a lot of stuff that was way overtuned, including a bug on the player side to get infinite pets as a Magician.