Wal-mart Runs Our Lives

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Is Wal-Mart censoring people's music and reading choices?

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Wal-mart Runs Our Lives

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In order to get the article from the NY Times, you'd have to register and that's too much trouble so here it is:

After reading the article:
1) Do you believe that Wal-mart (with a 40% market share) is censoring people's music choices?

A) If not, why not?

B) If so, why? What other outlets could "controversial" music and books be introduced into?

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New York Times wrote:Shaping Cultural Tastes at Big Retail Chains
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK


Until five years ago, few people other than devoted evangelical Christians had heard of VeggieTales, a small company's series of cartoon videos about talking cucumbers and tomatoes learning biblical lessons. That, however, was before the VeggieTales went to Wal-Mart.

"We found out that many of the buyers at the big box chains were already fans of the shows," said Dan Merrell, senior vice president for marketing at Big Idea Productions, which makes VeggieTales. "They had seen it, they had experienced it at church."

The latest VeggieTales cartoon, "Jonah," has been one of the best-selling videos in the country since its release in March. About half the 2.7 million copies sold have gone to mass merchandise stores, and about 25 percent to Wal-Mart alone, Mr. Merrell said.

"VeggieTales" is not the only best seller to receive a mighty push from discount chains like Wal-Mart, Target and Kmart, and price clubs like Costco and Wal-Mart's Sam's Club. Tyndale House, publisher of the Left Behind series, credits Wal-Mart with a pivotal role in turning the evangelical thriller "Armageddon" into the best-selling novel in the country.

Music executives say the chains have helped turn country performers like the Dixie Chicks, Toby Keith and Faith Hill into superstars. And major book publishers say the growth of the mass merchandisers has helped produce a string of best sellers by conservative authors like Bernard Goldberg, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage and Bill O'Reilly.

The growing clout of Wal-Mart and the other big discount chains — they now often account for more than 50 percent of the sales of a best-selling album, more than 40 percent for a best-selling book, and more than 60 percent for a best-selling DVD — has bent American popular culture toward the tastes of their relatively traditionalist customers.

"They have obviously reached the Bush-red audience in a big way," said Laurence J. Kirshbaum, chairman of AOL Time Warner's books unit, referring to the color coding used on television news reports to denote states voting for President George W. Bush during the last election. "It has been a seismic shift in the business, and to some of us in publishing it has been a revelation."

But with the chains' power has come criticism from authors, musicians and civil liberties groups who argue that the stores are in effect censoring and homogenizing popular culture. The discounters and price clubs typically carry an assortment of fewer than 2,000 books, videos and albums, and they are far more ruthless than specialized stores about returning goods if they fail to meet a minimum threshold of weekly sales.

What is more, the chains' buyers — especially at Wal-Mart — carefully screen content to avoid selling material likely to offend their conservative customers. Wal-Mart has banned everything from the rapper Eminem's albums to the best-selling diaries of the rock star Kurt Cobain. This month, in its latest bow to its customers' morals, Wal-Mart stopped selling the racy men's magazines Maxim and Stuff.

Critics say the stores' policies make it harder for excluded works to reach the spotlight of best-sellerdom. "It is going to hurt sales of anything that is at all controversial, and if the stores are not going to put the CD's on the shelves, then the record companies are not going to make them," said Jay Rosenthal, a lawyer who represents the Recording Artists Coalition, a lobbying organization whose founders included the performers Don Henley and Sheryl Crow. (Wal-Mart banned one of Ms. Crow's albums because it criticized the chain for selling guns.)

In another worrisome trend for the entertainment business, the discount chains' narrow selection is increasing the industry's dependence on hit books, albums and videos, making it harder to call attention to new work and sell older work. "Once a book gets on the best-seller list, it becomes entrenched at the big discounters," Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild, said. And other bookstores offer discounts on books from the best-seller list, so in that way the chains "help determine what gets sold at traditional bookstores as well," he said.

But conservative groups praise the stores' selectiveness. Dr. A. William Merrell, a vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention, said the stores were performing a public service in that "they have said, `Don't send us smut.' " Glenn Stanton, director of social research at the evangelical group Focus on the Family, said Wal-Mart's policies had hit the entertainment companies "like a brick in the head."

Representatives of Wal-Mart, its Sam's Club price clubs and other general merchandise chains say that they worry only about their customers, not their impact on the culture. Publishers and music executives say that other chains like Target or the Costco price clubs, aim for a more affluent clientele and are not as restrictive as Wal-Mart.

But media industry and store executives say all the stores still try to maintain "a family-friendly atmosphere," including keeping violence and obscenity off the shelves.

Entertainment industry executives are often reluctant to speak publicly about the power of the chains, especially Wal-Mart, for fear of angering crucial buyers. In the last decade, as the discount chains have expanded exponentially from their roots in suburbs and small towns, they have increased their share of book sales by nearly 30 percent, improved their share of music sales by about 50 percent, and have come to dominate DVD sales.

Wal-Mart and the other chains have moved aggressively into sales of media products, in part because a constantly changing selection of discounted books, music and videos gives shoppers a reason to return. The stores have pushed best-sellers' sales to new heights by putting deeply discounted blockbusters into the hands of millions of customers. One hundred million people visit a Wal-Mart store each week.

The mass merchandisers now account for 34 percent of all music sales, according to Nielsen SoundScan, and music executives say Wal-Mart, the largest, accounts for about 20 percent of a hit's sales on its own. That allows the chains to set the rules.

Wal-Mart refuses to sell any albums with parental warning stickers, including most hip-hop releases. Eminem's albums, for example, are not sold at Wal-Mart. Many artists and labels, however, re-record special, cleaned-up editions of their albums for Wal-Mart's shelves, deleting obscenities or changing lyrics.

The major record labels have satellite offices near Wal-Mart's headquarters in Bentonville, Ark., to cater to its buyers. Several major music companies, including Warner Brothers, BMG and EMI, have invested in Christian labels after Christian sales soared, helped partly by Wal-Mart and other discounters.

The mass merchandisers' ability to sell vast quantities of deeply discounted albums has disproportionately benefited performers more likely to appeal to a rural, small-town or suburban audience, generally benefiting country and hurting rap, several music executives said.

For example, mass merchandisers accounted for about 60 percent of the 5.4 million sales of the Dixie Chicks' most recent album and about 72 percent of the 2.5 million sales of Toby Keith's last album, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

In contrast, mass merchants sold just 35 percent of the 5.8 million copies of Norah Jones' most recent album, which dominated the Grammys, and just 26 percent of the sales of the most recent album by the rapper 50 Cent, according to Nielsen SoundScan. (Wal-Mart sells edited editions of 50 Cent albums in some of its stores, typically near urban areas.)

In the book business, the total share of the market for mass merchandisers and price clubs has risen from 9.1 percent in 1992 to 12.6 percent in 2002, despite recent declines in Kmart's sales after its bankruptcy filing, according to the research company Ipsos-NPD. The percentage of books sold at Wal-Mart roughly doubled to 4 percent.

The low proportion of total book sales belies the discounters' growing dominance in sales of best sellers. A typical Wal-Mart sells about 500 titles, many of them rack-size paperbacks, and a typical Costco or Sam's Club sells even fewer titles, mostly in hardcover.

Several publishers said they had learned not to show books with explicit content or racy covers to the buyers for the mass merchandise chains, especially Wal-Mart. "Our reps who handle that channel might say, `Well, that cover won't get into Wal-Mart,' " and then we have to decide whether we are going to change it, if that is going to be a big channel for this book," Jane Friedman, chief executive of the HarperCollins division of the News Corporation, said. "They have not dictated to us, but we are very smart about servicing that channel the way they would like to be serviced."

Mr. Kirshbaum of AOL Time Warner's books unit said he decided to start a religious imprint because a book buyer for Wal-Mart told him that more than half its sales were Christian books. In the last two months, Crown, part of the Random House division of Bertelsmann, and Penguin, part of the British media company Pearson, both started new lines aimed at tapping the booming market for conservative books.

Ms. Friedman said she had created a special sales force to sell rack-size paperbacks to the discounters, increasing sales 30 percent in two years. Michael Jacobs, senior vice president of Scholastic, said his company was investing more in books about licensed characters like its Clifford the Big Red Dog, in part because they sell well at mass merchandisers, which can also sell related toys and apparel.

Film studio executives credit Wal-Mart's aggressive promotion and low prices with playing a major role in the recent shift toward DVD buying. Warren Lieberfarb, a former Warner Brothers executive who is considered the father of the DVD, said, "Wal-Mart now comes close to spending as much on purchasing DVD's and videos as the major studios earn from all the theaters in America."

Theatrical runs largely determine consumers' appetite for most videos and DVD's, but Wal-Mart is still important enough that studios occasionally edit special editions of their videos to meet its standards. Wal-Mart stocks some R-rated films, although a spokeswoman for the company said it carefully screens them for content and demands proof that buyers are over 17.

Wal-Mart sells an edited, R-rated version of the racy film, "Y Tu Mamá También," not the full, unrated theatrical release. Although it does not sell Eminem's music, it does sell the DVD of his movie "8 Mile," but with a cleaned-up version of an extra music video included.

At what point does the discounters' selling prowess combine with their restrictive standards to influence new work from record labels, book publishers and film studios? Their executives all call that possibility remote.

But the chains already help determine which new works receive the most attention, with a broad effect on popular culture. "That is our goal, to impact the culture of this country," said Mr. Merrell of the evangelical Big Idea Productions, maker of the VeggieTales cartoons.
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Post by Rsak »

I just pretty much never even set foot inside Wal-Marts these days. Yet i can still find any music or books i want.
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Post by Harlowe »

First off, I don't consider Wal-Mart a store for music anyway...actually, I can't stand the place in general and try not to go there for any reason. For music I hit the Electric Fetus or Borders, hell I'd even go to Sam Goody before I'd go to the nearest Wal-Mart to pick up a cd.

As a business Wal-Mart can choose to sell or not sell whatever it pleases and if we don't like it, we can choose not shop there.
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Post by Zyllen »

I voted no.

My music is usually bought at Best Buy, Circuit City or online. I don't go to Wal-Mart any more than I have to :)
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Post by rodric »

My guess is the people that are posting on this board are not the people shopping at Wal-Mart, but I could be wrong. I've never been to a Wal-mart myself.

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Post by Lurker »

Just because Wal-Mart and other discount chains have 40 percent market share for music sales, it doesn't follow that their not offering a specific album affects sales of that album. Even if it did it's not censorship.

A more interesting question from the article:
At what point does the discounters' selling prowess combine with their restrictive standards to influence new work from record labels, book publishers and film studios?
Will this happen? Has it happened? Does it matter?
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Okay now, what was this about free speech being under attack in America? Maybe I didn't hear right because I just don't get it. Some cute country-western chicks who've been sheepishly sliding into the alternative-rock category for years — presumably for the intelligence-bequeathing thick-glasses women in the genre get to wear — said something snarky about the president of the United States to a foreign audience on the brink of war: "we're ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas." Not exactly "J'Accuse" or the Pentagon Papers, but whatever.

The fans got mad. Some radio stations stopped running music by the Dixie Chicks. In other words, it was the "End of Freedom," the "Handmaid's Tale" set to the background music of an Applebee's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. As is always the case with such hysteria, fractions of other stories — Tim Robbins at the Hall of Fame, Martin Sheen's self-martyrdom, Michael Moore's asininity, Madonna's video — and other complaints were mixed together with ample paranoia and liberal pundit opportunism to form a single narrative. Or, in this case to continue a narrative which has been running since the very first days of the war on terrorism. Within days of the Twin Towers coming down, journalists who couldn't bring themselves to talk about the real threat to America went with what they knew: the tyranny of right-wing conservatives. "Something is burning this week, but it's not the site of the former World Trade Center," wrote Cynthia Cotts of the Village Voice in September of 2001. "It's what's left of the First Amendment — and every self-respecting journalist should sign up for the rescue mission."

And so many did. Like airborne special forces, they load up with all of the useful metaphors, allusions, and adjectives — chilling effect, backlash, Orwellian, fascism, censorship — and then toss them around without much precision or care. That's the great thing about hand grenades, you don't have to be accurate. The New York Times's Paul Krugman got his dress so high over his head about all of it, he compared some radio-show stunt in a parking lot with Dixie Chick albums to the book burnings which marked the Nazi rise to power. Ah, subtlety, thy name is Krugman.

Now, I don't want to belabor this point, but there is something remarkably obvious that needs to be said. In countries where actual free speech is threatened, where fascism or Orwellian thought control are the order of the day, the victims of the backlash don't typically go on to pose naked on the cover of a magazine, mock their critics, and score exclusive primetime interviews on national TV as well as, literally, thousands of write-ups in magazines and newspapers across the country. It's just not the way it works in … hmmm I dunno, let's say, for example's sake, Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Over there people whocriticized the president received different treatment. Over there, if I were to mention at the local bazaar, for instance, that Saddam Hussein dyes his mustache, I might expect a knock on the door later that evening from some men. One of them might grab my tongue with a pair of pliers and then, without anesthetic, slice my tongue off before I was carted off to jail for an unknown and unknowable period of time.

And I guess — just for giggles — I should mention that Saddam's regime would still be doing this sort of thing today if we lived in the sort of crazy mixed-up world where people take the Dixie Chicks, Tim Robbins, and Martin Sheen seriously.

FREE SPEECH VS. INTIMIDATION
And speaking of Tim Robbins, since he seems to be the newly appointed court intellectual of the crowd which starts every day with a high-colonic, decaffeinated chai tea, and the latest issue of Mother Jones, let's take this just a bit further. In his speech to the National Press Club, Robbins declared that any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against." He told the assembled journalists that they are the only hope of "Millions [who] are watching and waiting in mute frustration and hope — hoping for someone to defend the spirit and letter of our Constitution, and to defy the intimidation that is visited upon us daily in the name of national security and warped notions of patriotism."

And lest you think Robbins is alone on this point, noted political philosopher Madonna voiced a similar point after voluntarily pulling her latest video from the airwaves. "It's ironic that we were fighting for democracy in Iraq," she explained, "because we ultimately aren't celebrating democracy here. Anybody who has anything to say against the war or against the president or whatever is punished, and that's not democracy."

Indeed, this is the official position of the Hollywood bureaucracy. When Martin Sheen was out there reminding the public that in real life he's the sort of guy who'd call the president he plays on TV a racist warmonger, some advertisers suggested that maybe they didn't want their cars or baby formula associated with him. The Screen Actors Guild, the Writer's Guild and the other protection rackets which serve to regulate and prohibit the speech of writers not in their club, issued blistering denunciations. "Some have recently suggested that well-known individuals who express 'unacceptable' views should be punished by losing their right to work," SAGs whined. "This shocking development suggests that the lessons of history have, for some, fallen on deaf ears." SAG went on: "With a painfully clear appreciation of history, we deplore the idea that those in the public eye should suffer professionally for having the courage to give voice to their views."

Sigh.

Okay, let's recap. "Intimidation" of free speech is a moral horror. Democracy means never being criticized. And, the refusal to sponsor speech you don't like amounts to having one's "right to work" repealed. This is childish. Oh, I don't mean childish as in silly, I mean literally this is childish. This is the way children talk and think, especially in our gitchy-goo self-esteem culture. Not understanding the difference between their desires and rights, they insist they are entitled to do whatever it is they are doing. No matter what they do with their crayons, children expect to be told "That's so good. Good for you." Any criticism elicits a tantrum about the unfairness of it all. Maybe it's because Hollywood types live as King Babies and are never told they're wrong about anything, or maybe their view of democracy is one in which they are the customers of expensive restaurants and the rest of the world are simply waiters. Waiters are supposed to receive criticism with intelligence and geniality but never, ever, talk back.

When Madonna says that democracy is undermined whenever critics of the president are criticized, it makes me wonder what kind of train wreck her interpretation of the Kabbalah must be. Sheen and his defenders want to be simultaneously saluted for their "courage" to speak out while at the same time believe they there should be no risks for those who do speak out. Well, if there are no risks, where's the courage? And why should movie stars have a right to risk-free political speech when no other profession has anything close? If I owned a hardware store and put a sign in the window reading, "Down with Bush" — I'd lose business. Or, if I put one in the window saying "Down with Saddam!" I'd also lose business. This is because other people have the right to associate themselves with ideas just as much as movie stars have the right to express their "ideas." Only by the logic of the bitchy little world we call Hollywood, where even men are divas, would we say it's outrageous that store owners are having their "right" to sell three-penny nails revoked.
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No.

Who the hell buys music at Walmart anyways, unless they got no other choice? Their usual selection is pitifully small.
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Post by Redspine Bladeslinge »

Wal-Mart is a business. They can choose what they sell and what they don't sell.

If a business is forced to sell all music, all books, all magazines, where the hell are they going to put them all????

If they choose not to sell music with explicit lyrics, so what.

This is further proof of the retardation of people. Welcome to a free market society.

And I shop at Wal-Mart, it's less then a mile from my house. Granted I don't buy music there.
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Post by Gorre McGuinness »

Having an article in the NY Times questioning censoring is really the pot calling the kettle black. I only go to Wal-Mart when Mobile One is on sale, but they are a shrewdly managed company and you can bet they are offering what the majority of their customers want.
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Post by Lugal Zaggisi »

How is this about politics?
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Post by Chants Evensong »

To you and me Lugal, this looks like a case of Walmart's private decision making processes in marketing and distribution.

To others, Walmart's marketing and distribution decisions have been co-opted by the Bush-red conspiracy in an attempt to thwart free speech.
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Post by Reako »

Wal-Mart is ruining society by the fact that they dont sell birth control so all the rednecks that would have not reproduced are doing so because they dont have access to birth control :P

And why does it not surprise me that Red shops at wal-mart


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Post by farbekrieg »

Wow so your accusing wal mart of trying to use its limited monopoly to influence they people who write music that is not explicit, so it will be stocked on walmart shelves? If the aristists want to whore themselves out for money, they can, if walmart still doesnt think that it will sell to their costumers they still wont carry it. Walmart knows their target demographic very well and caters to them very well, is that so wrong? If a company has no moral consience they get beaten up (enron) as well they should, but when they do have certain principles and standards they still get beaten up. Is their entire mission statement and approach wrong? WTF ya cant have it both ways. Why does this entire article sound like a thinly veiled rant against wal mart for not carrying the NYT?
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So, do those of you who believe that Wal-Mart is practicing censorship beleive that any book/magazine store that doesn't sell Hustler and Playboy is also practicing unfair censorship?
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Post by Gaennen »

Who the hell buys CD's anyway?
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Post by rodric »

This is probably the only time you will see Chants and Lugal agree on anything on this board.

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Post by Croinc »

I still buy condoms at Wal-Mart. A big Thank you to the rant crowd for making me see past the 18 yr old that checks me out. Everytime she /giggles when she sees the condoms, I just give her the "I got a big dick.." look.

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This is probably the only time you will see Chants and Lugal agree on anything on this board.
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Post by SicTimMitchell »

And I'm in with Chants and Lugal, which is pretty strange given my stance on free speech in general.

But non-government censorship isn't prohibited by anything. Blockbuster refuses to stock x-rated movies, refuses to stock "Last Temptation of Christ," and (far more horrible in my mind) uses edited versions of major films with scenes they disapprove of.

So, I go elsewhere to buy and rent movies. My choice, based on Blockbuster's choices. And as for WalMart, Target kicks their ass anyway.
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