c++

[Burz]

Double plus good.

[Bahd Zoolander]

Have you programmed before? Do you know C? It's kinda hard to recommend something without knowing what you're really looking for.

You can Google for C++ tutorial and find a bunch of sites.

[Dost]

buy the book early and read the first few chapters?

[-=Xilanthanax=-]

and random macroquest stuff

Sup Cheat?

[Lunarstorm]

Don't do C++ if you're new to coding, try C# for starters. C# is a powerful, much more forgiving than C++, and can introduce you to the basics of OOP.

Loon

[Neuc]

C#

sup microsoft employee

jk

java is pretty easy to.

[Ickhor]

C# is fucking awesome.

But I assume he needs to learn C++ for a class.

[Burz]

The remedial kids take C-- fyi.

[Talan Stoneheart]

I just finished taking my C++ class last semester, I hated every minute of it. ;x

[Bahd Zoolander]

eh, gotta pay for the hookers somehow.

[Mukik]

not everyone can program in ascii

[Ickhor]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[ZanypherCocoapuffs]

Actually I would study regular C before moving to C++. Thats how my college teaches it, and it has really allowed a deep appreciation for the superior power of C++'s capabilities.

[Grygonos Thunderwulf]

I would say, but the Bjarn Stroustrup (sp) c++ book.. he wrote the language, his readability may be lacking in spots, but he knows his shit quite obviously.
Pick up the Dennis Ritchie C book if you go the C route.
As far as somethin to learn first.. fuck C#. payin for the IDE alone is a big commitment. Download the Java SDK, buy the beginning Java book from Sun, and then just reference their Online API docs (javadoc = win) to find out what's available to you.


C is a very powerful lightweight language, for getting down and dirty it's hard to beat.
C++ (save templates) is good stuff too.
I adored Java, but maybe that just appeals to my programming-only anal retentiveness.

[Bahd Zoolander]

There's nothing wrong with templates when used properly. There are always tradeoffs, and knowing when to use something and when not to separates the really good programmers from the average to poor programmers.

If you need to take a C++ class for school then there's no reason to learn anything else first. Focus on what you need to learn to get the job done.

If learning C before C++ is necessary, then do you need to learn Assembly before you learn C? For many people all you get out of that path is leftover bad habits from the previous language that they never need to use anymore. Many C -> C++ programmers write C++ code that isn't const correct, passes pointers instead of references, creates way too many temporary objects, prefers public data over private, and doesn't properly abstract interface from implementation. Bad habits are hard to break.

[Ickhor]

Visual C# 2005 beta is free.

So is sharpdevelop.

So is the .net command line tools and whatever text editor you want.



I think that people should learn ASM (at least how it works, not nec. how to write full code in ASM) before writing important applications C, unless they are just academically learning C and not planning on writing anything serious in it. This is because a large class of C bug behaviour can be explained if you just understand how C translates to ASM.

I think you can learn C++ with or without learning C first, I really don't matter.

[Garrdor]

Pizza

[SicTimMitchell]

Everyone should have to learn 6502 assembly.

And Lettuce C. Definitely Lettuce.

(In a serious bit of grudge holding, I still have one Borland C 5.25" floppy stuck on my fridge with a magnet. It's been there through at least four apartment and house moves.)