What an investigation THIS will be.

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What an investigation THIS will be.

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The Senate idiots get involved in the Terri Schiavo mess:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... geNumber=1

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hours before a feeding tube was to be removed from a brain-damaged Florida woman, U.S. lawmakers on Friday called on the woman to appear before congressional committees in an attempt to keep her alive.
She's gonna look great in front of the cameras, won't she?

And what happens when she doesn't answer any of the hours of questions? Will she be held in contempt?
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A Florida judge has ruled both subpoenas invalid.
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Good. Now if he could only rule DeLay and Hastert invalid, too.
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Sorry you need to take that to the American people and let democracy take care of em. Isn't Hastert from IL? Start a grass roots movement to defeat him next ellection.
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The hubris is amazing. It took Democrats 40 years in control of the House to get their worst, and in barely 10 years the Republicans have surpassed them in spades.
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how is trying to save the life of a woman the worse of republicans? Removing her tube so she can slowly starve to death is nothing short of Murder.
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With your stance on the death penalty and your support of the murder of Shavio despite all of the doubts and questions about her wishes would be shocking were it coming from another individual.
End the hypocrisy!

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Here is a nice site devoted to the history of this case:

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html

Personally I feel she should be allowed to die. There is no hope for recovery......a major part of her brain is now gone due to the lack of oxygen she received during her cardiac arrest.
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She's dead already. She's been dead since her heart attack. All that's alive now is the shell that once carried her. Frankly, whatever happens to that shell doesn't impact her - she left this Earth years ago. I just find it a threat to our Constitutional republic that the legislature seeks to override the judicial process.
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Not to be crass......but I find the notion of people expressing the desire to keep a feedling tube attached to a woman diagnosed as a bulimiac because it would be her wish.....to be incredibly ironic.
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Tholiak Eladamri wrote:how is trying to save the life of a woman the worse of republicans? Removing her tube so she can slowly starve to death is nothing short of Murder.
You say that as if murdering invalids is a bad thing.
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Tube removed.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050318/D88TKRG82.html

Although I don't agree with the decision (admittedly a heart-rending one on both sides), Congress should not have involved itself in this particular circumstance. Unless, of course, they were going to modify or pass some national law prohibiting or allowing something like this.

But, I disagree about it taking a couple of weeks to die for her. It will be over in 4-6 days. Food is one thing, water is another. If she is getting all her fluids through the tube, then she'll die of dehydration long before she dies of malnutrition.

Death by dehydration is a very, very bad way to go.
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She's dead already.
That is funny, there is a large number of doctors who disagree with you.
End the hypocrisy!

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Holy shit!!!

Rsak takes Relbeek twice in one day, in two separate threads!

Film at 11.
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That is funny, there is a large number of doctors who disagree with you.
No, there aren't. There are, like, a couple. She's braindead, and only a "doctor" with a religious/political axe to grind says otherwise.
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Pulse?

Yes

Breathing?

Yes

Basic functions intact?

Yes

Diagnosis: Alive
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life ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lf)
n. pl. lives (lvz)

1- The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
2 - The characteristic state or condition of a living organism
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That's ok Kulaf. Beek is using the same definition of "alive" to describe the Democratic party.
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Har har.
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She's not brain dead. That's why she only needs a feeding tube. She has severe brain damage, and the estimated capacity of a 6-11 month old child. It's not getting worse, but it will never get better, either.

I, personally, am morally opposed to removing the tube. I don't consider simply feeding a patient extraordinary means of keeping them alive.

However, a spouse's wishes supercede those of the parents under the law. There have been more legal opinions written about this case than any other single case.

Congress is wrong to try to preempt 10 years of judicial proceedings at the 11th hour.
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